Sinking line selection

Discussion in 'Stillwater' started by IveofIone, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

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    I have met a couple of fly fishing noobs lately and the conversation always seems to get around to line selection for lake fishing. Because I mostly fish alone, I don't get much input on what everybody else is doing. I have my own ideas of course but I don't necessarily want to burden a noobie with my possibly eccentric opinions. And since I have over a dozen lines for lake fishing and use them all it is hard to give specific advice.

    Let's assume that everybody has at least a floating line but what are your top 3 preferences after that? I would like to see if your opinions mesh with mine or where we differ.

    Thanks, Ive
     
  2. Creatch'r

    Creatch'r Heavies...

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    intermediate shooting head with floating running line (i have an outbound). turns over big streamers really well. it isnt stealthy but neither are large articulated flies.

    type III or IV. really versatile. great for trolling and searching around the lake and good for casting and stripping from 4-8 foot deep. deeper if you waait and strip slow or troll. really great for ripping flies around at mach speed yet still staying 3 feet down.

    type VII. love that line. allows you to strip quickly and maintain depth. its possible to strip the living crap outta your fly and still be down 10+' all the way back to your boat. if you troll it or fish slow you can hit 20+ feet. no one does that and they are missing out.

    standard intermediates are also pretty clutch in certain applications and i would make that #4 on the list. damsels and scuds when there is wind namely. its also stealthier in shallow, clear water where spooky fish are cruising. outperforms a floater when fishing subsurface in that scenario IMO
     
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    I use a floater rio trout something or other. A cortland clear intermediate, a rio type VI, and a SA type III sink tip.
     
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    Clear Intermediate, integrated sink tip type III, and a full sink.

    I also have multi-tip lines for my 5wt and 6wt. They have a floater, intermediate, Type III, and type V tips. If I think I will be changing a lot (new water, changing weather, etc.) I'll bring the multi-tips. It's much easier to swap tips than spools in the pontoon boat.
     
  5. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    cortland clear camo intermediate. Type III and in some instances a Type VI if wherever I'm fishing is known to be very deep. Three spools (float, Int, III normally) covers all that I know how to do right now. I do have multi-tip lines like Steve mentioned, but have not yet used them in stillwater. I prefer to change spools I guess. Maybe I'll try the tips instead.
     
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    If I had ONE line other than afloater, it would be a clear intermediate such as the RIO Aqualux. You can let it sink, troll it slow, troll it fast, its depth is pretty much governed by your retrieve and or actions.

    Another line that are very valuable are full sinkers, such as RIO's Deep 7 like Sean stated.
    Those two plus a floater will cover almost any stillwater situation I can think of in WA you may encounter.
     
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    I got to the point that it took longer to get all my rods and lines together than I spent fishing...so I pared it down to 4 lines, 2 rods[a 4 and 5 weight], 2 reels and 2 extra spools: 1. SA GPX 2. Rio Aqualux 3. Rio type 3. 4 Rio Deep 6....this line is money...got it in a 4 weight, casts great and will get you into fish 40' or deeper!
     
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    I have a WF5F and a clearish intermediate sinking line that I bought from WFF. Since I don't own any other lines those would be my top 2.

    Next I would like to get an actual sinking line, maybe a type 4 or 5. If I got anything bigger I would have to alter my retrieve as I don't think I strip fast enough. I am sure trolling around in my slow tube a 4 or 5 will keep me pretty deep.
     
  9. Jay Burman

    Jay Burman Fly Fisher, Bon Vivant, Layabout.

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    I use mostly a type 4 sinking line and sometimes (especially during the Damsel hatch) I will use my clear type 1. Sink tip lines line don't seem to work as well for still water; a full sink works better and I'm not sure why. Also, when I use any sinking line I have more success using unweighted flies (no bead or cone heads). I think the presentation is more natural. Those are just my thoughts. I could be wrong.
     
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    Floating Line
    Type 6 Full Sink
    Type 6 Sink Tip
     
  11. Chris Reagan

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    I also only have two sub surface lines, an orvis clear intermediate and a fast sink tip for my floater. This is my first season with the clear int. and I'm definitely getting into more fish with it.
     
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    i fish stillwaters a lot. and just dont understand the sink tip idea. just doesnt make sense to me and doesnt fit my style of fishing.

    casting to cover and stripping back keeping flies >1-3' below the surface. makes sense i guess. crawling nymphs to the surface? ok.

    but i just dont see it being more efficient than a full sink. a full sink stays down (speed of retrieve and line density relative) throughout the retrieve fishing at depth back to the boat where indecisive fish eat. fish a sink tip the same way and it will want to climb to the surface.

    whats the difference between a type VI tip and a type III full sink? it seems they will fish the same depth but the full sink is gonna fish all the way back, keep a straighter line between rod tip and fly (no hinge effect) and cast better.

    for the sake of debate sink tippers. what say you? :beer2:

    to each his own. in fly fishing there is never a right answer (unless the question is brown or bow). just curious if there is something i'm missing.
     
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    Hey Sean - Good question. I also have a type 3 full sink. I like the faster sinking rate on my sink tip because it seems to stay down at depth better when I'm trolling a lake. I troll quite a bit with my sons because they are just learning to cast. I also like the fact that when I'm helping them out I can let the line sit idle for several minutes and it rarely will end up on the bottom.

    I originally got the sink tip to fish lakes and rivers because I didn't have extra money to spend on more lines, spools, backing etc.. Last year I picked up the type 3 and haven't really done well with it. This may because I've used the sink tip and full sink line for 10 years or more so I'm more comfortable with them and fish them better.
     
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    Rio Aqualux Intermediate
    SA Type III Full Sink
    SA Type VI Full Sink

    10' Type II or III Sink Tip if I don't need the Type VI full sinker at a particular lake.

    Sean.
    I find the type VI full sinker great for vertical chironomid fishing. I like how fast it gets down versus a type III.
    I started using the VI after an old guy just put on a clinic for me about 20 years ago at Dry Falls.
     
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    Sean, you've got my vote! I switched to full sinks a few years ago and hook-ups went way up. Make sure you get 'Density Compensated' lines and a lot of those 'hits' will be fish to hand! I was a big SA fan[still love the GPX"s], but the fairly new RIO Lake series of lines are awesome. They seem to sink a little faster than the SA lines, but shoot much better....just my 2 cents!