I am not sure what you mean by hitting the rivers hard, I do not know anyone that fishes for steelhead as much as I do. Three days last week for me with two fish to hand. I think you forget that waiting like you do on your side of the state, we can fish year round over here. I know you do not want to hear numbers, but lets just say I have landed many this summer alone fishing four different rivers in two different states. All were taken on a swung fly on the spey and all but three we beached. One being a Spring native that was lot when a fellow fisherman grabbed the leader. These fish have been caught on intermediate lines through T-10 tips. Yes I have caught a fish on a dry, with a swung fly, with a dry line. If you do not want to believe me, ask Steve Buckner, who was with me at the time. He saw the take while I was looking away. Yes it was on the Wet-side of the state. Yes I have fished the grease line method. It works great when swinging nymphs. If you would have read my previous responses, you would have read I have caught fish on traditional patterns in the past. I have even caught them on a floater. Have I fished many tribs of the Snake, only a couple, but they are not much different than any of the dry side rivers like the John Day, Klick and Deschutes, where I have had moderate success. The only person I said was off base was you. I never said hairwings do not work, nor leeches are better. You are finding that yourself, rather I an defending a friend that you are attacking. Someone did not read my first post. I think I am going to go fishing now.