Skagit casting from a tube

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  1. wanative

    wanative Active Member

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    I caught the spey bug too last fall and purchased an entire 7wt outfit.
    Unfortunately I'm nursing a bad case of rotator cuff tendonitis in my left shoulder currently and can't fish at all for a while.

    It looks so cool to see an accomplished spey caster look almost effortless as the line appears to come alive and fly gracefully across the water to a distant target.
    It is certainly not as easy as it looks either, at least for this wannabe!

    Practice, practice, practice.
     
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  2. Jiminsandiego

    Jiminsandiego Active Member

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    Lots of good input that is very helpful for a guy trying to get a clue about this stuff. Thanks, Jim
     
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  3. Wayne Kohan

    Wayne Kohan fish-ician

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    I do mostly two types of fishing, spey casting for steelhead in the fall and winter, and lake fishing spring through fall. I love spey casting on the river, it is fun and relaxing. However, I find spey casting on a lake to be quite clunky. I have a 4 weight trout spey with an Ambush line which can be spey casted a country mile. But the line is much heavier than the classic 4-5 weight lines I use and just not “fun” like it is on moving water. So I use it infrequently as I like to have “fun” fishing.

    Wayne
     
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  4. Lue Taylor

    Lue Taylor Lue Taylor/dbfly

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    Hey Jim lot of the Spey MOVES involves current to help perform them where is the current on STILLWATER
     
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  5. Jiminsandiego

    Jiminsandiego Active Member

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    Lue, It seems that the short Skagit heads use what is referred to as Sustained Anchor Systemology. Using the "grip" that the water has on the line to load the rod. The guy I saw on Pass Lake the other day was using (very effectively) a cast they call the "Perry Poke". I've been watching a lot of videos and Skagit casting does appear to be an option for Stillwater casting.
     
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    Lue Taylor Lue Taylor/dbfly

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    I guess I got put in my place I need to come fish with you and learn that Perry Poke move with the fishing luck I have been having:D
     
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  7. Jiminsandiego

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    Heck Lue I always like to hear what you have to say (given me some valuable advice). These OPST heads are designed to use on rod weight down to 2 or 3 and I bet that 10' 4 wt would be ideal. They can also be used on rods as short as 6' (even bamboo) and allow you to throw bigger flies with lighter weight rods. All I know is that the guy at Pass gave me something to think (learn) about and the videos look very cool.
     
  8. Roper

    Roper Idiot Savant

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    Ha-ha, I saw the title and though you were in the Skagit River in a tube...LMAO
     
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    not much worse ideas then taking tubes into rivers.

    in regards to the OP question about how far a good caster can cast from a tube...

    with the right line and rod to suit there casting style, 50-70 feet should be achievable with only one false cast on a intermediate or sinking line.

    first, retrieve to the heads shooting point. then, lift the rod high and and roll cast the head out in front to bring the line and fly to the surface. as soon as it lays out, make one double haul cast and shoot the head. if the head is say, 30 ft, you should be able to shoot another 30-40 feet of line no problem.
     
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    Dustin Bise Active Member

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    that said, i almost never cast more then 40 feet when im in my tube
     
  11. Roper

    Roper Idiot Savant

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    That’s about 95 percent of my casts on lakes...
     
  12. Scott Salzer

    Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    Roper - 40', really? Just messing with ya. You can cast more than 40'. I've seen it on turtle bay.... you didn' t look me up for that other hotspot. I'll stick with ya next time on the trip across the lake, depending on the wind.

    MB
     
  13. Roper

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    Ha, I meant the method not the distance...

    Rusty Relic bay...follow me...
     
  14. Jiminsandiego

    Jiminsandiego Active Member

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    Great info for me on this thread. Thanks folks
     
  15. Steve Kokita

    Steve Kokita FISHON206

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    Ok Jim....I've been drinking so take this advise with a grain of salt.....seems to me like you're trying to stuff 150 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag! Too much info! This May 23rd will only be 52 years of fly fising for me so I'll be the first one to acknowledge I don't know much yet....I'm still learning, so you need to really try to master one thing at a time. 40' casts with a wet line stripped to your tube is covering the water efficiently. With a tube you can get closer to the fish without super long casts and spooking fish.
    But if you insist on spending more $ on river gear for stillwaters....go for it....my .02

    And any splashing spey Poke casting.....do it at least 200 yards away from me!
     
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