LOL, this thread is hilarious. You all said it pretty good. Thanks Coach, you said pretty much what I was gonna say. My Uncle used the system that Dennis used (as Manimal described) up until his death in 1974. Have a picture of him with some Puyallup River steelhead circa 1965 that he caught using the system (he only flyfished). It's what I learned to fish on back in 1980 when I first took up the flyrod. Still have an old 9wt that has the markings for a shooting head system (and this is an early ferralite fenwick).