Skagit River Steehead

Chris Bellows

Your Preferred WFF Poster
And of course I see plenty of people "hooking" these fish with weighted rigs, jigs and floats etc., and many of those fish are foul hooked.
In my experience having landed quite a few steelhead hooked on jigs and pink worms below floats, your statement regarding many of "those fish being foul hooked" is just not true. i can count all the foul hooked fish i've seen on gear fished below floats on a closed fist.
 

Jerry Daschofsky

Moderator
Staff member
In my experience having landed quite a few steelhead hooked on jigs and pink worms below floats, your statement regarding many of "those fish being foul hooked" is just not true. i can count all the foul hooked fish i've seen on gear fished below floats on a closed fist.
Yeah, I have to disagree with that too Bob (I can't believe I missed that). Having fished both of those for almost 25 years, I can say I've yet to recall a foul hook on my part. Then add to the guys I fish with, can't recall a foul hook for them either. BUT......if you're talking about a hatchery hole where the snaggers are there fishing them, well that's different. A weighted jig without a float is a good way to snag. And a double hook setup on a pink worm strafed through a stacked hole and setting the hook every second would do the trick too. And, will add, some of the most aggressive strikes I've had were with a pink worm setup.
 

Bob Triggs

Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!
In almost every instance that I have witnessed this it was a case of guides, with guests standing up fishing, drifting downriver with the rigs in the water over the sides, including fly rods. I was not accusing anyone here personally. Just an observation. And my experience is true for me. Inexperienced anglers are more prone to this.
 

bennysbuddy

the sultan of swing
And, will add, some of the most aggressive strikes I've had were with a pink worm setup.( Quote Jerry Daschofsky)

I'm hopeing your swinging that worm with a speyrod ,After all this is a flyfishing forum!!!!
 

Jerry Daschofsky

Moderator
Staff member
And, will add, some of the most aggressive strikes I've had were with a pink worm setup.( Quote Jerry Daschofsky)

I'm hopeing your swinging that worm with a speyrod ,After all this is a flyfishing forum!!!!
Lol nope. I proudly fish gear too.

Bob I'm no where near offended. But I bet I spend more time fishing with gear anglers then you and most others. I've actually taught anglers to fish jigs and pink worms correctly. In fact I was asked to write a jig fishing article for Salmon Trout Steelheader about 10 years ago. I gladly obliged. Only thing I can imagine of you have some, but not that much, experience with it. Unless the guide in question was telling clients to premature set the hook. I could see it if it was same guide over and over.
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
Why is a c&r season where you make your stand? I just don't get it.
Because making the decision about having or nor having a C&R fishery is totally within our control -- as opposed to the myriad of other factors influencing stocks and for which we have little or no control over.

Freestone, you're just picking a fight. You seem to like feeling controversial.
My position on this subject is only controversial to those that don't share the same view.
 

bennysbuddy

the sultan of swing
Freestone, you're just picking a fight. You seem to like feeling controversial.​
My position on this subject is only controversial to those that don't share the same view.

I'm abit lost.
Are you against C & R or just opposed having C& R season on the native Skagit /Sauk fish
 
Because making the decision about having or nor having a C&R fishery is totally within our control -- as opposed to the myriad of other factors influencing stocks and for which we have little or no control over.

My position on this subject is only controversial to those that don't share the same view.
Where do you draw the line then? Is it any better to have a c&r season on the Hoh? Is it addding any more risk to have a c&r season on the Skagit? Every time you have a c&r season you introduce risk, often minute, but there is some. They buffered the 4800 fish escapement goal, just to be safe, to 6000. The fact is, the Skagit, if it makes it's super conservative escapement goal, can handle the impact. Just like c&r fishing on the Hoh doesn't create a substanital risk.

Given the way you calculate acceptable risk, I will assume that you also avoid airplanes, driving, taking a bath and fishing for any steelhead ever.
 
I miss opening this thread and reading something of value written by people with passion. Now every other response is Freestonespammer trying so hard to stir the pot and play the devils advocate. I think you should open a special thread just for you. Slam a redbull or two and type out one long masterpiece about what your viewpoint actually is. I imagine it would be really tough for you.

Occupy Skagit isn't invite only and I have nothing to do with its inception and I certainly hold no authority.... But I'm gettin the vibe you're uninvited?
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
Occupy Skagit isn't invite only and I have nothing to do with its inception and I certainly hold no authority.... But I'm gettin the vibe you're uninvited?
No one is "uninvited". Anyone who chooses to show up can and they can do so in any capacity they want. If that is in opposition of Occupy Skagit's stated goal, so be it.
 
I miss opening this thread and reading something of value written by people with passion. Now every other response is Freestonespammer trying so hard to stir the pot and play the devils advocate. I think you should open a special thread just for you. Slam a redbull or two and type out one long masterpiece about what your viewpoint actually is. I imagine it would be really tough for you.

Occupy Skagit isn't invite only and I have nothing to do with its inception and I certainly hold no authority.... But I'm gettin the vibe you're uninvited?
I'm thinking, from his responses.... he might show up to protest the protest of the Occupy skagit movement.
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
You guy's really do get all worked up when someone doesn't agree with you or suggests alternate perspectives. The only thing this and a few other select threads are missing is a MSLSD logo...good grief :rolleyes:

A quick summary of what I've stated in prior posts:
  • I support and partake in C&R fishing when it has been determined that stocks will not be adversely affected.
  • I'd like to see a C&R fishery on the Skagit and all the rivers in the PS basin.
  • C&R does introduce risk -- which needs to be considered in the decision making.
  • I favor taking a conservative approach and err on the side or caution -- after all, isn't more about protecting the species than getting to fish?
  • I agree that rivers should be analyzed and these decisions made on an individual basis; as opposed to a collective PS basin.
I response to those who prefer a thread (forum more like) free of all views that don't fit their agenda:
  • Use the ignore function or change the channel.
Never planned on attending the rally -- not big on occupy movements. An excerpt of this thread might be valuable to the decision makers however...they are tasked with considering all points of view.
 

BDD

Active Member
FS,

I would bet that a large percentage of posters on this thread would totally agree with your 5 bullet items. So I gotta ask the question, what are we all arguing about?