Let me clarify. All the Portland surrounding waters and coastal river are ones I know well and have caught fish out of consistently. I understand the S rivers are another animal altogether, for which I don't know shit about. I would expect weeks of no bumps on rivers your are carving your teeth on, or river that simply have no fish in them. I still suspect that 5% of the people who REALLY know what they're doing are catching fish on the Skagit and Sauk, while 95% of the people who KNOW what they're doing aren't.