skagit vs. the world.

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  1. Panhandle

    Panhandle Active Member

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    Just got done reading 24 pages of debate on spey pages about how skagit casting is for mentally challenged, subhumans. I fish almost exclusively skagit. Its what I know and what works. If I want to go to heaven though, I better get my ass moving with a long belly before my soul is forever lost. On that page exists the silliest thing I have ever read on any forum. I'm going to paraphrase this guys comment.

    " I was on the clearwater watching this guy fish this run with a guide. I approached the guide and asked why his client was skagiting. The guide said that he couldn't talk his client out of it. The client didn't catch a fish of course. But guess what happened when he stepped into the run with his longbelly.......you guessed it, he caught a fish. That's right, he directly attributed his line and likewise purity to why he caught the fish. That's some funny shit and really captures the rediculous debate over which way you two -hand is "righter."Justifies
     
  2. Luke77

    Luke77 I hope she likes whitefish

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    But wait, I thought the Skagit was the developed in order to fish MORE effectively in certain water, where the Scandi couldn't? So how is evolutionary improvement considered bad?

    I guess it comes down to this, every group of people will still find a way to segregate themselves from the others. With fly fishing, you're not cool unless you only swing for steelhead. For the guys that only swing, you must be a fool if you do it with a skagit.
     
  3. KerryS

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    I always knew I was mentally challenged. I did not know I was sub-human. Cool!

    I find the debates over what line, what rod, what reel, what fly, what tip, what cast, what ever, a waste of time. Fish what you like.

    One of the guys I fish with throws long bellies. He likes them. I like watching him cast 'cause it looks cool. I don't give him shit for it. I throw short bellies around. He doesn't give me any grief about it. Sometimes we trade rods. He isn't as good with my short line as I am but he gets it out there. I am not as good with the long line as my friend is but I can throw it fair enough. Yeah, I know guys that cast short bellies can't cast long bellies. Ok, sure. I enjoy playing around with the long lines but when it comes down to what I am on the river to do which is to catch fish I will stick to my shorties. Which one of us catches more fish? I do of course.
     
  4. Leroy Laviolet

    Leroy Laviolet Aint no nookie like chinookie

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    Rut roe, yer bored ...
    POPCORN, getcha POPCORN !!!
     
  5. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    the truth is that skagit, scandi, and long lines are not the true path. both are extreme.

    the mid length lines are the true middle path.

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  6. jeff bandy

    jeff bandy Make my day

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    You waded through that 24 page clusterfuck. I would have blamed it on shacknasties but it started on Dec 5th.
     
  7. Panhandle

    Panhandle Active Member

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    I perused through it. You get the gist of it in one page, the rest is just entertainment.
     
  8. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

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    Didn't they end up locking that thread? I may need to head back over and see.

    Yep, locked up. Thought so.
     
  9. stilly stalker

    stilly stalker Tuna sniffer

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    But put a long belly line against Skagit head and T14 for fishing kings....who will catch more? People who fish for summer/fall run fish may do just as well, but I think whn the waters deep and cold Skagit is king. Which is exactly what skagit casting was invented for. Go figure
     
  10. speyforsteel

    speyforsteel Degenerate Caster

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    At times a long belly can catch more fish.
    Other times a Skagit head can catch more.
    Yet other times a scandie head could rule the roost.
    To say one is ALWAYS better is the sure sign of a achievement certificate at a tard academy.
    A center pin and guts-now we're talkin global domination yet even guts and a pin can be bested with a teeny tiny fly at times.
    I've witnessed that occur a couple of times now with steelhead.
     
  11. Lugan

    Lugan Joe Streamer

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    Sounds like a mid-winter discussion that amounts to splitting hairs, then splitting the split hairs again, then once again splitting the double-split hairs a third time. I mean, the debate is about a niche (long belly vs. short head) within a niche (spey) within a niche (flyfishing). That's a pretty microscopic topic for anyone to get heated up about.
     
  12. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't give two craps what line you are using. I may be envious of what you can do with your line and skills, but that is a different matter. I have skagit lines for each of my two handers, airflo deltas (not longs) for them (which I think most still call short bellies...just at the long end) and I really don't care what anyone else thinks about the line I'm using. Maybe when I catch fish on every cast I can try a more challenging 80' belly line. Skagit lines and skagit casting is a delivery system that works in my humble hands. That is all that matters to me.
     
  13. KerryS

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    A bunch of east coast asshats that have been throwing clothes line with a two handed club for a year or two thinking they have this crap all figured out and for some reason have a need to tell the rest of the spey world that we don't know shit.
     
  14. Panhandle

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    Amen, Kerry! Many of these online two-hand gurus turn out to be intermediate, at best, casters when away from the computer. :rofl:
     
  15. g_smolt

    g_smolt Recreational User

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    Learn all the casts and techniques for all different line types, use 'em when you need 'em, and don't forget the pin setup and the bobber rod.

    It's just fishing, for fuck's sake.