Pardon me sir for jumping into a discussion topic I did not initiate. I just find it amusing when Mr golfman65 justifies fishing skagit lines because they are easiest, while snubbing his nose at mid and long bellies. Mid and long bellies with tips work well at delivering flies, even larger weighted flies with a correctly matched rod. They can also be fished close to the bank unlike the claims made by Mr golfman65. They do however require practice and discipline to fish effectively - hard to find traits in this world of instant gratification and lust for anything easy.