Thanks, guys; I'll have to give this some serious thought! A Sweetgrass would be really nice, and i studiously avoided them at the Ellensburg conclave last month because I probably would have walked out with one! I have two Headwaters rods now, the 4 wt Santiam-their "cheapie", and it's a very nice-casting rod; their 5 wt Rogue, with which I'm less impressed. The 5 seems a little heavy and a little clunky. To be frank, I never thought about getting this far along in life; just put my head down and one foot in front of the other. Blue, I very much appreciate your thoughts about that-never considered it that way!