So in a run of 4-6 ft with bolders what are you....

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  1. circlespey

    circlespey Member

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    Great comments on this thread, a mix of tactical and philosophical. Love the feedback on the swing, that is spot on. Some thoughts:

    (Tactical)
    1) I do prefer a weighted fly in a boulder field. Sure you might lose it on a rock, but I always found that flies that dip, weave, and swim deep are better around rocks. Go heavier than you think you can on the fly + tip. And don't get too attached to your flies. Unless you are talking about a low / clear water summer spot, then three feet of leader is fine.
    2) Fish move! For all you know that fish arrived 5 mins after you fished through it, and just in time for your follower to intercept it.
    3) Color does matter, unfortunately. To some fish. I have lots of experiences fishing through a run with different colors and finding fish on the second or third pass. One favorite in BC was a time I fished a run three times, got nothing on the first two passes, and landed three on the third pass with a third color (same pattern). You never know.

    (Philosophical)
    4) Your turn will come, just believe it. Find things (tips, flies) you can fish with confidence and stick to it. Every time you see someone catch a fish, learn something about it (the specific lie, the speed of the water, etc.).
     
  2. Leroy Laviolet

    Leroy Laviolet Aint no nookie like chinookie

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    Lots of great stuff here. specially Pan's words . Sometimes, pick-pockets simply happen...
     
  3. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    Great thread and thoughtful responses. It could be any number of things( many of which have been stated), you never know for sure, could have been the angle or length of your cast or if and how you mend. Maybe his fly just dipped behind the right rock. That's what makes the dance so intriguing for me. I ran into an older fellow years ago on the n. fork stilly who told me about standing on the tracks above the fortson hole watching the guys fish. He could see fish holding in the run, one guy with a white streamer would cast and as the fly drifted by the fish, one would glide out, pick up the fly and drift with it, then spit it out. Although it happend more than once, the guy never new.
     
  4. Panhandle

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    That's awesome!
     
  5. Leroy Laviolet

    Leroy Laviolet Aint no nookie like chinookie

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    Very cool-
    Iv'e wondered and talked to a buddy about this on several occasions... Just how
    often may it happen- One of my most memeorable takes was a fished I never hooked. I felt what was a very
    subtle bit of weight, felt like a tiny stick or something, but I just had a fealing it was a fish. He picked it up, swam with it as it swung across a good 15' or so... About the time I thought it was maybe not a fish, and a small twig or something,
    he gave two instant head shakes and left me shaking in my shoes...
     
  6. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    When I was 16 with my dad and his buddy on vancouver is. fishing summer runs we saw 2 fish lying in shade across the river, with pencil lead we could not get a drift. The guy with us had some mesh spawn bAgs, he put one on with no weight and flung it across the river. We were standing on the seat of the boat to see the fish,(he couldn't see'em). Three cast in a row the outside fish picked up the eggs, drifted with them and spit them out. We'd tell him " HE'S GOT IT"' and on the third try he got him. It was very cool to watch.
     
  7. fredaevans

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    Delightful read top to bottom.

    But with water like this (under 6 foot in depth) I'll be going with a straight full floater (usually a Scandi head) and a 9-10 foot leader to a lead brick for a fly like Kauffman Stone followed (18 -24 inches behind) by a bead head Prince Nymph. In the winter that will usually be a size 8, in the summer a size 10 to as small as a 12.

    What this gives you is line control, and that's a very good thing.

    fae
     
  8. stewart dee

    stewart dee Guest

    Water like that means a thingymobobber lined up with 7' of floro and some split shot. Then we drift peach colored eggs in the zone, real stealth like. (we meaning Golfy and Jimmy), then after flogging the run= we tell everyone we swung flies, without a grab. Its just fishing right? no matter how you do it.
     
  9. golfman65

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    Don't bring me into your constant drival responses....This was a good thread..grow up..
     
  10. fredaevans

    fredaevans Active Member

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    I'll be the first to ask, and hopefully the last. What the heck was your post bringing to the Party?

    Fred Evans
     
  11. Paul Huffman

    Paul Huffman Lagging economic indicator

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    They told you we can only talk about swing 'round here.
    No beads, no jigs, they say that it is gear.
    The fire's in their eyes and their words are really clear
    But I say bead it, just bead it

    It's a rocky run, you better do what you can
    Don't need to be a snob, don't be a swinging man
    You wanna hit the pockets, better than swinging feathers can
    So bead it, if you wanna be bad

    Just bead it, bead it, bead it, bead it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn't matter who's wrong or right
    Just bead it, bead it
    Just bead it, bead it
    Just bead it, bead it
    Just bead it, bead it

    They're out to get you, don't let them see you if you can
    Don't wanna be a dickhead, you wanna be a man
    If you wanna get a hook up, better do what you can
    So bead it, just bead it

    You have to show them that you're really not scared
    You're playin' with your indicator, this ain't no truth or dare
    They'll kick you, then they beat you,
    Then they'll tell you nymphing's not fair
    But just bead it, if you wanna be bad

    Just bead it, bead it, bead it, bead it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn't matter who's wrong or right

    Just bead it.
     
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    haa haa
     
  13. stewart dee

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    Sorry Dadbawling:
     
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    Paul Huffman FOR THE WIN, that is some good shit!
     
  15. sandspanker

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    LOL that is funny.