So, where are the fish....

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  1. martyg

    martyg Active Member

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    So we have all been promised this banner year due to some netting agreement with Canada, payout of money to the Canadians, blahblahblah....

    I have generally been fishing my ass off, and seeing little. We are running into pods of really crazed, and larger than normal Silvers about every fourth day out, but nothing to support the claims of the government. Usually at this time of year if I am not boating two fish (keepers) per hours it is a shitty day.

    Since I spend a lot of time out on the water I run into tribal guys on a regular basis (I know some really good guys who are really respectful of the resource and don't mind sharing info), and they are not seeing numbers either. A WDF&G officer that I know was on the Puyallup yesterday and saw very few fishing being caught. Neah Bay was strong with Kings in June, but that is not exactly going off.

    Is anyone experiencing anything different? Is this just story so people buy fishing licenses and support local retailers?
     
  2. obiwankanobi

    obiwankanobi Active Member

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    The fishing this year has been slow and hopefully there will be a delayed large run of fish that will push through in Sept, otherwise its been somewhat dismal. Rain, cooler temps, overcast skies might help things soon.
     
  3. ralfish

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    Just so you don't feel so bad... the local waters around Vancouver BC have been a total bust . I haven't seen such a poor coho season in over 20 years of pounding the beach...
     
  4. salt dog

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    Marty, I'm getting the feeling this is a West Coast thing. First catching Kings in CA, OR and Alaska prohibited or severely restricted, now Coho numbers are way down.

    Fishing in Sitka last week, I heard the same lament from several charter captains. While they still get comparatively large runs, it's not like it usually is where a boat with 4 fishermen gets its 24 fish limit in 2 hours. We never limited, but did ok. Same thing on the size of fish: average running large, 12-15lbs.

    Pink Salmon run last year was 44 million. This year it's under 2 million, and processors are lying idle in the harbor.

    Seems to me we are seeing the effects of the el nino waters off the coast two years ago. I just hope the regulations are sufficient to allow the runs to bounce back.
     
  5. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    This year and last seem to be much worse than usual....
    I've put in the time and have very little to show for it.
    Will it get better?
     
  6. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Each year is different.
    I had really good success from 2001 to 2005. 2006 was super slow for me. 2007 was great. This year has been slow, but not a total bust. Definately having to work harder to find willing biters at my go to spots. My shore bound gear angling friends are experiencing similar results.
    I'm going to break from my usual routine as far as locations, lines, flies etc. Time to try some different things. Don't give up yet, it can turn on at any time. We've also got some of the best fishing time of the year still ahead of us.
     
  7. Jake L

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    I hope it picks up soon. Three weeks now I've been pounding it with no first Coho to show. Gotten close several times, just never hooked up. I only have one week left here in WA. Hopefully I can find a willing coho soon, or I'll have the ultimate skunking on my hands.
     
  8. mtskibum16

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    I just moved here and started hitting the beach a few weeks ago, so my expectations for myself were low. However, I was surprised when no one around me was hooking up either. Sure would be nice if it picked up....I've been having a blast just getting out there but I sure would like to tie into one and get a taste of what I've been after!
     
  9. jcnewbie

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    Actaully, in a weird kinda' way, that's good news 'cuz that means it's NOT just my lousy casting or lack of fishing skills in general....:beathead:

    JC:hmmm:
     
  10. Mr.E

    Mr.E He called me an Elitist ?? LOL ..what a moron

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    It's low numbers all around the Puget. Tributary and River anglers will have a rough time do to "Extra" commercial tribal fisherman plus the low numbers of Salmon. The South sound has been getting allot of Pods with Jacks in the mix....give it another week or two ,with this rain and things should pick up.
     
  11. s2ary

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    Must be Global Warming the east coast fisheries are slumping as well.:clown:

    In fact the fisheries numbers that are up for us along the atlantic is Atlantic Salmon numbers.:confused: Go figure.
     
  12. jcnewbie

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    A boyhood friend of one of my sons has been in alaska for about 8 years now; he said yesterday that last year you could walk across the rivers on the backs of Sockeys, or "Reds" as they call 'em up there, and never get your feet wet, this year you'd drown in the first step into the river!!!:eek:

    I fear that what ever we do at this point is gonna be waaay too little, waaay too late because not only are the fisheries grossly overfished - raped, would be a better description -the fish are being increasingly poisoned and their reproductive systems shut down and/or altered significantly so that fewer and fewer males that are really males are around, having been altered by human female hormones in waste water (birth control substances in their urine!).

    Both fresh AND salt water habitats are virtual pharmacopeia’s of chemicals from mining (Mercury, lead, zinc, cadmium & arsenic), agriculture (Nitrogens & all it's chemical constituents), logging and residential/commercial developments (excessive siltation of spawning grounds & chemical saturation from lawns & golf courses), plus additional lists of chemicals that I can't even pronounce let alone spell that have just recently been identified as radically interfering with a fishe's ability to see, hear & even swim!!

    I have little faith in the race of humans ability to stave off environmental disaster in proportions never before seen or imagined - or at least since the last Asteroid impact 65 million years ago - and we weren't there to see it....kinda' like, you know, "If an asteroid hits the planet and there's no one there to hear (see) it, did it really happen?!" Or, "If a man alone in the forest speaks and there is no woman there to hear it, is he still wrong?"

    Woman: Of course, stupid! :rolleyes:

    As some of the more astute scientists have noted, "Once you have created the "feedback loop" it becomes self sustaining, self accelerating and irreversible until it exhausts ALL of the componenets that created it in the first place!" This usually takes millions or tens of millions of years and by then of course we AND the salmon, steelhead, trout, bass, sturgeon, marlin, and probably even the catfish & cockroaches will have been looong gone....well, maybe not the cockroaches)

    My, my, what a swell legacy to leave the universe, eh??:eek:

    It becomes logarithmic, exponential as it were....!....when you start computing powers of ten it can get out of hand & incomprehensible astonishingly fast! Just for S&G's try this one on for size.....10 to the minus -35th power...........or about the time the first photon penetrated the fog of creation, some 13.7 billion years ago and the invisible universe became visible....!! Not that usn's were their to see it...,nevertheless.....?!:ray1:

    Now that you're all cheered up and supremely confident of your and your childrens and great grand childrens childrens future, lets move right along to more delightful subjects, like....,how many fish did you catch this weekend?

    Me? One! Species? Sculpin! How big (this is important to us Trophy Hunters ya know!)? Oh, about 6 inches --- but he was "fair hooked" for a change and not just snagged off the bottom! AND he/she/it was released unharmed in any way!:thumb:

    A smashing successful weekend I'd say.....:rolleyes:

    JC (...ok, I'm done for awhile now.:beathead:)
    PS. Sometimes it's good to vent/rant a bit.....
     
  13. MasterAnglerTaylor

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    They are in my freezer
     
  14. Steven Green

    Steven Green Hood Canal Pirate

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    :rofl: yeah from last season
     
  15. Bruce Davidson

    Bruce Davidson formerly hatman

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    Just got back from my annual trip to Prince Rupert (Dundas Island) waters. Fishing was OK (great by WA standards) but not as good as previous years generally. Although not the numbers as previous years, the average coho was bigger than usual. Also, while it's often been possible and productive to get them on the top, for the most part, they were deep, and wanted to stay there. It's just one week out of the season in one area, but wanted to share the observation for what it's worth.