Thank you for the response and encouragment. I am using Pearsalls silk thread but simple soft dubbing wax on the head. (orange tube? Waspi?) I bought the thread from Steven Jackson at Ted's Sportscenter. I will ask Steven about wax products he has available for the silk. Thanks again! I pick up my purple thread today if all goes as planned. Oh, Ron. You don't strip one side of the starling prior to wrapping do you?