Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by S Fontinalis, Feb 29, 2012.
Jock Scott, Size 8
Fontinalis, That Lady Grey pattern looks to me like it might be a killer. Have you ever fished it?
Not fished it yet. Don't really get to fish as often as id like so most of my tying is for fun. About 70% of the flies in my box never see water. That said I do hope too get out fishing in the nextweek or so. Someone else on here said the Irish grouse would be killer for cutties
I grew up 100 miles north of Philly near Hazelton and fished most of the Pocono Mountain streams and rivers, the Delaware in and around Hancock (say 20 miles either side of Hancock), the Lehigh above Jim Thorpe (when I left PA in 1978 at age 25 to move to Montana the Lehigh was still very badly poluted from just upstream of Jim Thorpe from acid mine drainage and the zinc works around Lehighton), Lizzard Creek, Yellow Breeches, Susquahanna (mainstem and North Branch near Berwick) for smallmouth, Fishing Creek out of Berwick, many small local streams in Luzerne and Skuylkill Counties, Penn's Creek, and others. I tied and fished a lot of those old featherwing wets when I learned how to tie flies at age 9 because dad loved fishing them, especially on 2 or 3 fly dropper rigs for browns and brookies.
Anyhow, your flies are well tied. And has been mentioned, the hardest part of tying married wing salmon flies is setting the wing. Believe it or not, you set a wing on a married wing salmon fly just like you set on on a featherwing wet. You just have a larger wing to work with due to them being tied on larger hooks. And don't worry about substitutes for rare feathers, subtitutes have been used since married wings were developed. Kelson, et all often made mention of substituting Kingfisher for the difficult to obtain blue chatterer.
Been busy tying fly orders the last few days. Finally got them finished and cranked out these two
Beautifully dressed flies. Are you the same Fontinalis I know from other boards?
I'd been avoiding the teal/mallard wing flies for a while as I could never get them to look right. Then i discovered they are stacked wings, with 3 layers on top of eachother. So, last night, I tied Abbey, the first fly listed in Bergmans book Trout, and i'm going to continue to tie the flies in the order they are listed as a small ongoing project.
Rather than list each fly here (as this thread may have kinda run it course), if anyone is interested to see the outcome of this project (hopefully the result will be all 10 plates framed) over the next year or so, you can check my blog from the link below - Bookmark it or follow it if you're a regular blog reader.
Finally thanks to all who've checked in here over the last few weeks and commented on the flies.
Here is Abbey
Another beautiful work of art, Fontinalis. Thank you for sharing.
Just a question. To my eye, the tail appears to be a tad longer than
I would have thought it should be. I would never presume to criticize
or question a much more talented person's prespective, but I ask anyway.
Does the pattern call for that, or was that your interpretation?
Nice observation. The black banding on the GP tippets is not always uniform among feathers on a GP head (depends on the size of the feather how far apart they are, with bigger feathers having bigger distance between the bands), so on some flies it looks like the inner band is in line with the bend of the hook, on other flies, as this one, i can be a bit past the bend.
When i tie, i generally make the tail approx. 1 hook length (personal preference), that is, from behind the eye, to the bend of the hook - this generally accounts for the difference in apparent length, along with the hook size, where smaller hooks will also have the band closer to the bend.
Well, it is a beautifully tied fly by any standards.
You must be the one I didn't know until now. Beautiful flies.
What other boards are you on?
Here's last night's effort.
The fly bears your touch of magic. It looks like a rather simple tie, but I am certain that your touch makes it appear that way. I am certain that I could never produce such beauty.
Don't you just hate it when there is one errant feather barb, though.
Amazing flies. Nice photos too. I grew up 25 miles east, in you know where--before the dams on the Delaware (Trenton uses what the world refuses). So we (my dad and I) always thought West. Now I want to go back East (for a little while) and fish there again.
.....where do all the tiers meet? South Street. Saaaaoowth Street.