Spey and Dee Fly Pattern, Material...

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by yuhina, Dec 5, 2007.

  1. yuhina

    yuhina Tropical member

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    Hey friends,

    I just start to tie some traditional spey/dee pattern. I really like the shrimpy looking hackles. I think maybe pheasant rump is good for a beginner to try?... or do you have any suggestion about using other material that have won't cost to much... any suggestion about the material (hook/hackle/wing/technique) would be appreciated!

    Thanks,
     
  2. Marty

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    Not the greatest photos but you can at least get an idea and please don’t be too hard on me these are fishing flies. I have been using a lot of pheasant lately on all of my steelhead flies. Hareline has white pheasants dyed in different colors now. I have a black, purple and orange and use is endless. I have been using the rump feathers for wings and for body hackles. I like the Alec Jackson in black and silver and for wings I use Argus, goose shoulder and turkey tail, Argus being my favorite Nothing like hooking a fish on a pretty fly.

    problems with the photos, I will try again later
     
  3. FT

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    Pheasant rump works well as spey hackle, just keep in mind it tends to have short stems so using it on large dee or spey hooks necessitates using more than one feather.

    Whiting Spey Hackle is another excellent spey hackle that will provide you with a lot of spey hackle/neck at a very reasonable price (Silver grade is $30.00 list price and Bronze is $20.00 list price). Whiting Spey Hackle has a nice, thin stem, nice long feather barbs, is easy to work with (much easier than pheasant rump on large flies because the stem is much longer), and produces a very nice spey or dee fly.

    I am very aware that Whiting Spey Hackle has been given a bum rap by many, but the stuff from the last few years is very good. Just remember to double it and not strip one side (you also want to double pheasant rump and not strip it) or it will be a bit too sparse.
     
  4. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    I just bought some of the aforementioned spey hackles and I think they're great for fishing flies. I see some shortcomings for display dressings, but nothing fatal.

    They get thumbs up from me.

    I also really like the Phesant (Ringneck) rump feathers for hackes on flies up to size 2 (3 Alec Jackson) but find them to small/short hackled for larger ties. Also Golden phesant rump for collars (along with teal).

    Never forget good ole Schalppen (especially for the Dee style flies).
     
  5. Davy

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    Black duck is also good for speys, smaller ones especially.
     
  6. yuhina

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    Thanks a lot for the great suggestions! I will try them!:thumb:
     
  7. Marty

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    got the photos to work
     
  8. yuhina

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    Wow...thanks Marty!:thumb:

    That is too difficult for a beginner! But I will try...:beer2:
    Is that silk loop eye?
     
  9. Marty

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    Alec Jackson blind eye with 20 lb backing for the eye.
     
  10. obiwankanobi

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    Marty, If those are your fishing flies then you are a great tier. One question, what did you use as dubbing for your Akroyd?
     
  11. HauntedByWaters

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    If you ever find a dead heron that isn't filthy, especially an old blue heron, consider yourself LUCKY and snag it.

    That is where you will find the VERY best spey hackles.
     
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    FYI: It is illegal to have in your possession feathers from the blue heron. Even from birds found dead. So harvest at your own risk.
     
  13. Marty

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    Tag is oval tinsel
    Tail is G.P. crest topped with G.P. tippet
    Body rear ½ is yellow seal with yellow body hackle
    Body front half is black seal with duck flank
    Rib is flat silver tinsel
    Throat hackle is black pheasant rump
    Checks jungle cock
    Wing is argus
    Hook Alec Jackson blind eye

    Far from the original but it sure looks good in the water.

    The blue one rocks up north.
     
  14. Nooksack Mac

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    Pheasant is the original and specified spey hackle for the Deep Purple Spey, which Walt Johnson seldom tied larger than No. 2. That's a beautiful and simple spey pattern, a great one to learn on.
     
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    Oh Ya!!! The 'feather' (and your butt) will end up down here in Ashland's animal forensic lab .... not a good thing.:beathead: