I find it odd that a couple of the Canadian sites ban swearing and some arguing even...I don't think anything gets settled that way and leads to more mis understandings and bad feelings then actually working out an issue or conflict... The nice thing about this board has been that you can say what you want for the most part and while some issues will never be resolved..i.e. beads on spey rods...at least there is discussion that isn't twarted... My problem with all of your posts is you never relent, even to guys who have way more experience, knowledge and skill...(and I'm not including myself in that as I'm not even close to those guys) An example of that is what your telling Ed in your last post...A shorter head might be easier in the wind when your a beginner but with time and skill a longer line can generate plenty of line speed to cut through the wind and be fished more effectively in some situations... I'm sure you've fished the mighty T. when it's been doing what it does best...blow!!!....at one time I would have packed a skagit in with my mid belly to switch over to in such wind...Time passes and you learn that you can generate the needed line speed with the longer lines and fish them in wind just as well and on such rivers they make more sense... The thing that I think your missing is..If you don't stick with the one line you'll never learn to fish it in all situations...I can say this from experience as I have way too many head wallets full of lines.. Now they mostly sit in my shop as I stopped touting the suckers around have stuck with the one line... For me this has increased my skill as a caster as I no longer use the other lines as a bandage for my own lack of skill....The ability to use one line in wind, tight quarters etc. especially a longer line means you have to develop your casting abilities... I can remember arguing with Bruce and Timdog that a long (er) line couldn't be used in tight to a bank or under tree's etc. and they said and I have seen in person that not only can they be used in every situation but used effectively if so choosen...BUT that takes time on water and skill to learn and for what it's worth, that gives some of us much more pleasure then debating what line to use in each such situation and the whys of how it's designed!!!! Last , I shouldn't have used bitch, not very creative on my part..I apologize for that!!!