Still an ammo shortage I see...

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  1. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    Its hard to say that the gun industry is risking anything when you see the gun sales numbers over the past year. But I have to think that the lack of ammo is driving people away from sport shooting as a hobby. And that isn't going to be good in the long run.
     
  2. Upton O

    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    I don't see the "hoarding" thing. Why .22's? Does not make sense.
     
  3. Krusty

    Krusty Krusty Old Effer

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    You're certainly old enough to remember the toilet paper 'shortage' of 1973. With the oil embargo and fuel shortages of the early 1970's still fresh in their minds, a comment by Johnny Carson (a joke actually) about a TP shortage set off a national TP buying frenzy. People bought up every roll they could find, hoarding against the 'shortage' and, for awhile anyway, purchasing TP at a rate far beyond normal TP production capacity.

    Producers of any commodity attempt to roughly match production facility output with demand....they don't spend money producing excess product to sit on a shelf in a warehouse where it incurs cost but no revenue. While ammo producers have increased production to attempt to meet demand, they're mostly done so by expanding shifts and workforce...knowing that this demand will eventually collapse, and they can shed employees.

    The same bubble is occurring with 22 ammo. With every utterance of politicians, and every shooting that makes the news (on an immediate a massive scale nowadays) people become paranoid about losing access to guns and ammunition.....so, when they begin frantically searching stores for ammo, and find some (sometimes even tipping others off on where they've found some ammo) they buy up everything they can. It's a feeding frenzy.

    When a pallet of ammo comes into Wally World, customers are waiting to purchase their limit...within minutes it's gone, which further feeds ammo shortage paranoia.

    Sure, there are more guns, but nobody is shooting much, because they're concerned that replacement won't be possible. So...much of the ammo that used to sit in store inventory (being manufactured at a rate closely related to normal demand) is now sitting in homes or in speculators' storage to be sold at premium prices.

    At some point, people will have hoarded enough 22 ammo that they finally realize that they're at saturation point (probably when the old lady finds that basement closet containing 5 million rounds) or sees the bank account or credit card being drained to purchase ammo...the bubble will collapse.
     
  4. Upton O

    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    Oh, there have been hoarding episodes as you recalled, but of all of the ammo that someone would hoard, .22 is at the bottom of my list. I've still got power, primers, hulls and wads, a 20 and 28 ga loader, there is no hoarding here.
     
  5. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    Believe it or don't, but .22 is being hoarded. There is very little to be found on the shelves and when you can find it, there aren't any bargains.
     
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    A guy in a store told me that doomsday preppers and survivalists are hoarding .22 ammo because of its ultimate utility, being cheapest, able to kill game, and able to kill a human. That gave me a real cozy feeling about getting in line before one of the stores opens.
     
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    orangeradish 1/2 an Ira

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    Yep. That's what the prepper crowd thinks. 22lr will be the currency of a post apocalypse world. There are a few popular books on the subject that talk about it. I'm just bummed because my kid can't shoot his 22 pistol...

    Josh, on the subject of your other thread, take a look at a Taurus Tracker 357. 4" ported barrel, 7 shot, fully adjustable sights. Helluva fun gun to shoot. Accurate, practical, and reasonably priced.
     
  8. Upton O

    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    Doomsday preppers, okee-dokee.
     
  9. Bob Rankin

    Bob Rankin Chasing fur and fish every second I get :)

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    I still have a bunch of 22 ammo that I keep for my daughter to shoot. I recommend reloading some bigger stuff and doing some long range shooting. It's a blast! I get off on reloading it's like tying flys. There are tons of places to take some long range classes and start hiting targets out to a 1000 yards.
     
  10. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    I've actually thought about that very gun. It does look like a heck of a lot of fun. I hear the porting makes it bark pretty loud though. Legit, or just internet talk?
     
  11. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    Nobody said it was logical.
     
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    It ain't the preppers that are triggering this shortage...they're a relatively tiny bunch of flakes compared to the vast number of people who regularly shot 22...who now react by buying up every brick they come across...throwing more fuel on the fire. People are buying, but not shooting.

    I just hope some of the scalpers take a beating when their stock decreases in value from the eventual glut in 22 ammo.

    As for reloading other calibers...you can't get any of the components over here. My reloading friends are not shooting either.
     
  13. Bob Rankin

    Bob Rankin Chasing fur and fish every second I get :)

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    Components are out there and not so hard to find anymore. Powder is still a tuff one. But people get stuck on certain components ,when you could try others. All kinds work. I'm still shooting every chance I get. If something runs out I try something new. It's called load development:)
     
  14. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    You shooting on the boat?
     
  15. Bob Rankin

    Bob Rankin Chasing fur and fish every second I get :)

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    Not yet. But as soon as I get home Bill!