Stilly tribe poaching fish.

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  1. Achilles

    Achilles Active Member

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    All this banter is going on and you're missing the real action on the other post about a wading staff freezing up! Come on all, get your priorities in line!
     
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    Fishlikeyoumeanit, I was not calling you a racist. I was simply pointing out to Troutsniffer, that he is not going to win his argument from his previous thread by buddying up to your post. http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/forum/index.php?threads/dont-bother-on-the-stilly.81973/
    He has already lost his credibility by spewing his racist rants in that thread. Read it and I think you might understand.
     
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    The burden of proof is always on the one making the claim...
     
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    I guess nobody bothered to call the Tulalip Tribe's fisheries department and talk to them about it, huh? Seems to me that it would be interesting to learn what they have to say on the problem.

    The Tribes do have rules that they have all agreed to abide by. And they do enforce them.

    As far as Tribes enforcing their own rules.... well, isn't that what *we* do, too?

    Craig
     
  5. Evan Burck

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    Kind of what I was thinking. He says he called WDFW, but WDFW wouldn't be the ones to call in this situation, nor would the poacher hotline. If it was a tribal member, there's nothing either of those agencies could do.
     
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    That's not to say the tribal member knew that though. If anyone is breaking the law and is caught red handed, as soon as any authorities are called, they are likely to scatter regardless of jurisdiction. Don't you think?
     
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    The alleged perpetrators did scatter but that's not the point. The point is that the person caught red-handed used a tribal affiliation to explain himself. Since the tribes have rules about this then the tribe most likely to be responsible for enforcing those rules would be the Tulalips. Even if they aren't, they'd be most likely to know where to take that information.

    The tribes themselves have an interest in ensuring that their members follow both the rules for the tribes and, where applicable, the state (they already have to follow Federal rules). Using tribal affiliation to explain away illegal activity by tribal members is not in the best interest of the tribes. I suspect they'd like to know about it when it happens.

    In addition, the persons doing the netting may be native American but not tribal members and may not have any more fishing rights than any other person. The tribes would probably like to know about that, too.

    But if the Tulalip's response is "so what?".... well, that would be interesting, too.

    Craig
     
  8. Evan Burck

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    I've reported many nets to tribal authorities. Never had a "so what" response. They've been dealt with every time. Can't say the same for reporting violations to WDFW.
     
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    i must say i am disappointed that these first Nations members stretched that net to the otherside of the river, and its good that responsible citizens take responsibility for the enviroment and the fruits that are shared, by reporting this obvious mistake and oversight. i'm sure if reported to the first Nations Elders, it will be handled in a most advantages method for us all, thus increasing our bonds and pursuits in maintaining this beautiful Eco system we all share, and take from.
     
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    And I agree with Topstoy agreeing with Sean...that's cool right? The main point is indeed getting lost in the PC pissing match. If the story is true then action needs to happen to stop it. I was one of a number of folks who called in about similar illegal netting on the Nisqually about 15+ years ago. That resulted in a sting operation and attention getting blatant activity throttled.
     
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    Kerry why the hell are you jumping on the PC bull shit bandwagon and jumping on this guy. The guy saw something that was bull and called the dicks on it. F you if you think they are unsubstantiated claims. Now this is the second post about this both sniffer and I saw the god damn tribe members poaching and now this guy. Obviously there is something there you dumb son of bitch
     
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    yeah! puttin' out fire with gasoline!
     
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    Exactly where on the lower Stilly was the net?
     
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    go cry about it because i used the words, "Indian" or, "Native" instead of Native American. I'll just use, "Pieces of shit" for those native american gillnetters who are engaging in POACHING. How's that sound?
    Don't care if I, "Win" an argument with the cry babies on this forum, just thought it was funny that there's multiple threads since mine pointing out illegal gillnets, and now this one in the exact same area where i was SO WRONG with you PC pussy's...
     
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    Yay!!! 100th post right there, thanks for the trophy face leakers...
     
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