Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Jonathan Tachell, Jul 22, 2012.
Oh, I recon I'll continue to post whatever I want, just the same as you.
Honestly... we are just getting weirder by the day. The man is simply asking for some general info that anyone can get by reading a book or two, checking some reports, Google has lots of beta. He thought he'd also access this forum, which makes sense to me. We could be a lot nicer. I was planning a trip to Vancouver Island, BC, and asked for some very general info on my first post in BC Flyfishing. Their members were helpful, forthcoming, and kind. I got lots of feedback and encouragement, and nobody inferred that I was trolling for their secret spot. Let's cool the sarcasm? It justs comes off as snotty. "Think twice. Say nothing." - Chinese Proverb.
I agree I have been fishing Vancouver Island for Afew years and always found the Canucks to be friendly and more then willing to share info.
Maybe everyone cooling down and enjoying our nice weather would be good advice. My sugestion is that if you do not have any positive input on a thread you move on to one that you do. If you find that you can't post positive advice on threads then maybe you should turn the computer off and go fish.
I don't visit the steelhead forum that often. But when I do, I always see some seriously aggro shit. Cracks me up. Wish I could help you Jonathan. I'll be out there myself this weekend searching around a little river.
Most interestingly, Jonathon went out and did pretty good and posted his pics on my FB page despite the reponses to his query.
Common misconception about distance being some reduction in crowding. The more you let people know the worse the crowding gets. And yes, that means he'll probably be taking up some spot at some point where I want to fish.
With all of that said, there is a fair number of summer runs that are released into the Bogie. At this time of year most are around the Calawah ponds. Don't expect a wilderness experience, but if you are willing to walk upstream a bit, there is some decent water that isn't pounded too hard. Other than that, you could go to the south end of the OP and hit up the Wynoochee. There is a fairly strong summer run, and the water is very approachable in the upper river.
I think nobody should ever ask the question that started this thread for anything. weather its carp, steelhead, salmon, or trout. not on a public forum anyway. try a fly shop, try a google search.
I also dont think anyone should ever reply to these questions. ive learned what ive learned from going out there and doing it...
I appreciate everyones input. I was not looking for anyones honey hole, I was simply asking a vague question that someone might want to answer privately through a PM. I do fish a lot and I do catch fish and anyone that has asked me for info or general locations has gotten a response containing accurate information that was hopefully helpful.
As much as I do fish there is only so much time away from work that one can simply not explore everything. And yes I have caught summer run steelhead before, I just have not had a chance to fish for them on the OP and since I will be up there in August anyway I figured I would give it a shot. For those that have shared information I appreciate it and I would and have reciprocated by sharing any information of a fishery that I have more knowledge about through PM's.
Tight Lines Everyone
You da man
I agree with don't ask...but if you do, how you asked seemed appropriate to me...Asking for PM's and your tone etc.
Problem is never going to go away or change...guys who have spent, weeks, months, years fishing places and finding out where fish are through hard work and sweat are NEVER going to appreciate someone coming on the internet and wanting it handed to them...and never should!!!
But it's the times we live in and I also understand your reasoning...I would be more interested in "What are the ferries like getting to and from"? ... The rivers themselves I've found a lot enjoyable by doing it myself...
The truth of the matter is that some of us have been around long enough to remember the days when the rivers were full of fish and there were very few people on the river. You could go to a beautiful run and 90% of the time you'd be fishing alone. I'm talking main rivers in Washington, Oregon, and BC. There was a time when only 100 guys were really fishing the Olympic rivers. Now, you have tons of guides, tons of people coming from all over the place. It's hard to see the landscape change like that. We all understand the benefits of having more people fishing (e.g., more resources and money for fisheries), but some people just don't understand what it was like before people revealed excellent fishing spots in guide books and on the internet. There was a time when I could go fishing in my favorite WA/OR/BC rivers and catch a steelhead almost every single time, most of the time multiple steelhead. In fact, we didn't even fish for steelhead back in the 70's and 80's because they were too easy to catch, we fished for salmon... We put our time in, sleeping in our cars, being wet for days, walking miles down river banks, exploring. Just hard to see things change so much.. Nobody wants to get down to their favorite spot and see 2-3 new guys who learned where to fish from a nice guy on the internet.
All of you guys betting all bent out of shape about some of the replies should go over on the drake forums and see what kind of response this would get on there.
times change, hows that for profound. the 60,70 and even the early 80s were all hot times for steelhead. a bakers dozen of wild fish in a morning was achievable with a modest amount of effort. no one was out there fishing either. if you were alive back then and took advantage of the opportunity, as i did each and every weekend, you have some great memories to look back on.
you current crop of newbies, well tough, you missed it! now you will work extremely hard, fight with crowds, be intimidated by the flotilla and maybe, just maybe, you will hook a fish, more than likely a hatchery zombie. so what to do? change your venue!
if you can't stand all of this nonsense, then i suggest you cast further afar and check out other fishes in other countries. there are plenty of quality fly fishing adventures that are still possible, all you have to do is look for them.
i hate the internet, except for the porn...