Summer steelhead

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Dave Hartman, Jun 6, 2007.

  1. Josh Benjamin

    Josh Benjamin Member

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    good post buehler. that makes more sense than any of the other ones.
    you hit the nail on the head.
    go fish.
     
  2. gearhead

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    Wooley, don't let the jerks bother ya, there are some unfriendlies here, but i think they spend most of thier time cramming gravel up their arss, and making diamonds. lot of us willing to share here. heck i'll even point out a rock if i can. i figure the more the better, don't let the malcontents bother ya. last year i got shouted at by an 8 year old, who already responded to you above, for mentioning that i was getting into fish on the green river, so ya just gotta get used to it, don't give up.
    Sorry don't have a tip for ya now though. The Cedar has fish and plenty of shore, but you want to pick cooler, rainy days. there is a heck of a hillbilly hatch when the sun comes out. at the risk of being banned for life i can recommend a site that has a mix of fly and gear fishers that are super friendly to eachother, and bitching, crying and whining is a rarety, they don't talk about the trees, warming or bitch about oil or Bush. (gamefishin.com), it's mostly a gear show, but informative as to where the fish are. this is the site to learn how to catch them. however the shear rudeness unfriendlyness and ivory tower, elitist speaker talk is waning. lately i have been feeling the site, should be renamed Waaaa.F.F
     
  3. Salmo_g

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    Wooleybugger74,

    It looks like you're new to the area. Here's some additional perspective that is a brutal contrast to your prior Montana. As a resident of Pugetropolis, fishermen outnumber steelhead by at least 100 to 1. Steelheaders are addicts, much like trout bums. But a critical difference is that the most skilled among us still catch few fish compared to trouting. Because we're addicts, yes, some of us have been fishing, even if most of the rivers are not in good shape for it. To the extent that you're asking about steelheading, just understand that assurance is not part of the equation at this time of year. By the 4th of July there will be fishable numbers of summer steelhead in any river that gets a run of summer fish. To the extent that you're asking about trout fishing, please understand that there is next to no significant resident trout fishing in streams in western WA. The best is the Yakima, which is east of Snoqulamie Pass. The next best is probably the Cedar, which has become a local celebrity river that offers quality CNR trout fishing during June-August, and is close to the urban area. Expect to witness some attrocious behavior near easy accesses. Check the stream gage to see if it's too high to fish. The forks of the Snoqualmie offer trout fishing, but are probably very high with spring runoff for a few weeks. The Green River is near the urban area, has summer steelhead, a few have been caught, but it would be misleading to say the "run is in" yet.

    This BB is a good place. Expect people to treat you as rudely as your close friends do, in a Coach Duff sort of way. Expect a lot of sharing, but not so many handouts, if you understand what I mean.

    Good luck.

    Sincerely,

    Salmo g.
     
  4. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    That's kinda funny that you recommend that site :) It's one of the places I troll to find out info on where to fish. Sure they do give you info like that but the posts tend to be boring as they fall under 3 different categories.

    1) Here is some fish porn, followed by 1000 "Nice fish posts".

    2) Where do I go, followed by 100 different replies some which are relavent, others that are not

    3) Here is a hot tip

    It's a nice site unto itself, but to say they don't have bitching and moaning is probably less than accurate. One of the longest threads *I've* ever seen on a BB online was dedicated to the SolFly tourney put on by another board PiscatorialPursuits. I think it topped like 1000+ posts and it was just one huge bitch fest.

    Gamefishin' isn't a bad place to go, and I like I said, I frequent it. But in general they don't have as much fish advocacy, nor do folks like Salmo_g, Will Atlas, Smalama hang out there so much. Because of that, there is a lot of "misinformation" about habitat issues, escapement requirements and other scientific info. For instance it is a reoccuring theme on that site that mortality related to catch and release is well in excess of 70%. Total BS, and something that won't go away (no matter how many biologists tell them otherwise). But for easy pickin's on the hotspot of the day, not a bad place to visit. And additionally there are lots more salt water folks there too.

    Why do I say all of this? Because, you should (IMO) pick and choose what you want from each site and ignore the rest. You'll find some of the best scientific data and be closer to some of the movers and shakers for fish advocacy here than you will be at gamefishin'. But for easy to access reports and places to go, gamefishin' is a better choice.

    -- Cheers
    -- James
     
  5. Hillbilly Redneck

    Hillbilly Redneck wishin i was fishin

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    Here's my bone.

    The N.F. Stilly is in great fishing shape right now. Pretty sure it's fishable from top to bottom. Personally I would concentrate on the water above Oso as the early steelhead tend to bolt upstream. It's early in the season to expect big numbers but the river is very wadable and pressure seems light right now. Oh yeah, the smart money says the Fortson hole has at least one fish holding in it:)
     
  6. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Just out of curiosity, if the attitude of the site bothers you, why further inflame the issue??
     
  7. Dirk Pitt

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    Well said, Salmo, we can always count on good advice from you. "Expect a lot of sharing, but not so many handouts, if you understand what I mean." Fly fishers can be elitist, and will protect their favorite spots with zeal, but they are lovable in a porcupine sort of way. Bob.
     
  8. yuhina

    yuhina Tropical member

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    Nice post! James
    You point out the exact and the most important reason ... :beer2:
     
  9. Coach Duff

    Coach Duff Banned or Parked

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    Since I was mean, how about the same message in a nice way.


    There are many steelhead rivers out there for you to enjoy. As for flies, lines, techniques, rods, and times of year, some of the greatest steelheaders in the world have input huge amounts of info on this site, and you can access all of it. As for giving out exact stretches of river or spots to fish, this is frowned upon in the steelheading world. One of the most exciting things you can do is to find the fish on your own and land one of these summer run beauties all by yourself. Or you can pay 3- 500 bucks and a guide will show you some spots. There are some amazing guides on this site, and many references can be found here, all good. Good luck to you and may your lines always be tight.

    Best of luck, Coach


    Now, go jump on another site and start trolling for spots, since you figured out the fellas here don't give them out. Even the nice guys. Gear fishing sites are usually much more responsive in handing out GPS coordinates. But since specific water is needed to swing the fly properly and hold fish, holding water is much more sacred in the sport of flyfishing than gear fishing where you can pound them with anything from slinkies to plugs to backbouncing deep holes. If that was too mean, than I don't know what to say, nor do I care. Good luck to ya.
    As for Gearhead, that other site is where you belong, sharing rocks and standing shoulder to shoulder with the rest of your buddies.
     
  10. Abel1

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    I may be new to the board but not to the game.
    Fished the N. Fork of Stilly today. Yes there is Steelhead in the river
    and conditions are good. Good place to begin, since it is a smaller river
    and the pressure right now is light!. Just make sure you cover plenty of
    water. And remember your fly is swiing by fish.
     
  11. nick m

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    Forget these guys, I'll give ya the goods.
    The squannacook if fishing alright. streamers in the day and some great evening hatches. park at bertozzi and fish the riffles below the rope swing and then on up.
    the nissitissit is slow and warm, but bows can still be taken.
    Got a few small browns today in nashoba brook behind donelans, but nothing of size.
    if you have the time, head west and fish the swift or the farmington.
    Good Luck!
     
  12. Dave Hartman

    Dave Hartman Strip'n Flywear

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    Ummm?
    Are you giving me the goods on Massachusetts' rivers?
    Funny, I used to fish the Farmington many years ago. But if I were in Mass right now, I'd head straight for the Cape's stripers and fish there until the Red Sox got back to town. Then I'd head to Fenway.

     
  13. Flyborg

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    Heh. That's funny.
     
  14. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    I call on all of Red Sox Nation to help this man out! I have a free fishing day on the day before fathers day. I'll PM you WB.

    Daisuke Today,
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