Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Switch MT, May 4, 2011.
I did watch Ed Ward, that was awesome, thanks so much for the recommendation.
I appreciate everyone's help. There is a lot of information to read and understand when going from single hand to two hands. All of you have helped me out very much. Once I get the rod I will give an update of how well it works. It wont be till August but I will keep you all posted. I have decided to get a 6 wt Echo. I got to fish that rod this weekend and love it. I swung a huge streamer and tied into a 28" brown. It was a great fight and feel. I was amazed at how the rod fought the fish. I will really have to work on my spey casting though. Thanks again everyone.
Zaxis 6wt with a 375 skagit and light mow tips, 5wt tcx with a 350 skagit flight, 6wt tcx 375 skagit short or 400 flight, burkie 5115 with a 375 flight. All will do everything you want and I have fished them all. I just spent three days in Craig fishing the 5wt TCX and I could cast home tied exaspirators with a 350 skagit flight and 10' of T8. Loved it
I use mono running line on all my light rods
I appreciate your info. I agree a 6 wt is a little heavy but I throw huge weighted streamers, I would love to be able to go with a higher end rod but I just can't afford it right now. I am trying to keep the whole set up under 650 dollars. If I had my choice I would go with a Winston or Scott. After this last weekend I am sure there will be more two handers coming in the future. I would love a really light wt for dry flying.
Well the good news is that a 6, or even my 5/6/7 Beulah, is plenty light in the tip, and so long that even 12 inch fish are still "fun" if you want to use that word. A six would be a great "first switch" for anybody.
I appreciate your comment. I have seen many of your comments looking at other subjects through out the forum. I wish I could afford two but just cant do it right now. I am excited to get it. We have amazing small mouth fishing here in Billings and it is big water. I am really hoping for a Sauger as well, but I am sure it will catch a lot of 12 inch fish as well. We do have huge trout in MT, but there is a lot of small ones caught between the big ones.
I too live in Billings and fish all of the nearby rivers on a regualar basis but try as I might, I still cannot convice myself to use a switch rod and/or mini spey rod for trout. I know a guide and local individual in a flyfishing club that swing for trout and enjoy it but even for heavily weighted streamer use, I feel a single hand rod is more pratical. I base this statement on the fact that many takes usually occur near the boat and/or within the last 10' of your rod tip. In most cases with a switch/spey setup, you will strip the line to the head or maybe just partially in which would limit you from convincing that following fish to engage at the last minute.
I'm interested in your experiences and others that have tried this method.
You make a good point, but you are talking about two different techniques. When you are swinging you do not strip the fly back to you. I agree with you and that is why single hand rods will always have a place in my arsenal for streamers. The switch rod is for a different technique that I want to use. Plus depending on how you line the rod you can still use a switch to strip streamers right back to you. Switch rods do have a purpose in MT, how many times have you seen fish just out of reach when using a single hand rod? Or when there is a great run but you can not reach it cuz you have no backcast room to speak of? I feel they have a place as a special tool. I would be willing to show you how the rod works once I get it. If you want to PM me maybe we can meet up sometime on the Horn and see what you think.
I use my TFO 6-wt Deer Creek switch on the Madison with good results, but it took awhile to get the kinks out of my (alleged) spey cast!
That's the reason why with active retrieves I only use integrated lines. Heck I don't even use windcutters with tips on single hands for active retrieves because of the loop at 15 feet. Heads are for swinging only for me. Remember we are talking switch rods here. You can single hand them if you only have the leader out. You do need to change your casting approach, but not the way the fly is presented.
Well my wife and son surprised me with this on Father's Day. I hope to get a reel soon and give it a try. Waters here in Montana are high and muddy. Even the Big Horn, which is dam fed is so high it is un-wadable. Hope to show a pic soon of the first fish.
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FYI. The fuzzy flip flops were also a gift and was the gift given to me in the morning. The rod came in the afternoon. She has a sense of humor.
That rod will be perfect for that area, and you now have the most epic wading shoes in the entire Big Sky state.
I told my wife thanks for the fly tying material. The green is really good marabou. I will be tying some flies with the "Fuzzy".
Well I finally ordered my reel. I decided on the Lamson Velocity 4. It is suppose to be in on Friday. I have a Speydicator line for it. Hopefully the reel makes it in on time since we are leaving Saturday for camping on the Madison. The Madison is pretty much blown out but there are a few spots where it will be fishable along with Hebgen and Quake Lakes. I am hoping to have a pic of the first fish. Tune in next week. Thanks again everyone for your help and advice.
Hooray for troots I just fished Shad on the Columbia with my switcher and it was a hoot. I could chuck a 1/8th ounce shad dart with the least bit of trouble. Yay for Skagit casting.