Swinging for Springers

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  1. Jim Kerr

    Jim Kerr Active Member

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    I fish for them a few hours from the salt and have had decent success, swinging is NOT the thing, you really need to pull it a little, slow lift and drop. The bite is often super lite and weird, set, don't wait for them to pull the rod down.
    Or, not.
     
  2. fredaevans

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    Same thing here on the upper Rogue River. The 'gear guys' are all flossing with 1-3 oz of lead, 6 (or more) foot leader and a couple of small corkies for 'bait.' If you find stacked up fish (like right below the Hatchery) it works very well.
     
  3. joellirot

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    I'm a hack. But, why is fishing for them here different than what's done in AK? Tons of people fly fish for kings - and catch them. 'Swinging' - as I've learned it's called here - with the fly near the bottom. I prefer a VERY slow steady strip. Nowadays it's en vogue to use sinking lines (which I dig). Back then, we put 2 split shot 18" above the fly and kept it near the bottom.

    The trick there (it's been a few years) was ORANGE. And if you weren't a purist - and no one was... - put a spin n glow ahead of the 'fly' - which happened to be a hook with orange yarn tied to it.

    That's how I learned to 'fly fish'. It was the way to catch kings.

    Now, i do the same stuff - but with sinking lines... most of the time. :)And with a fly with no spin-n-glow attached.

    haven't caught a king up here yet but don't understand why it's so mysterious.

    not being a weenie. just not sure why it's so difficult? maybe because there are less salmon?
     
  4. Sean Beauchamp

    Sean Beauchamp Hot and Heavy at yer 6

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    I've never fished Yakima springs but I would kill to be stepping into a run anywhere in the PNW about now with my box of chinook flies. Nothing better than springers on the swing (or BBQ). I'm bummed to be missing out this year. Springers are weird creatures and not every river behaves even remotely similar. I would expect Yakima springs to be really finicky. They've traveled a long way in freshwater and probably long ago lost their trade mark tidewater aggression that makes AK, skeena dean etc destination fisheries. I would target traveling lanes suited to a good swing with smaller buggier flies. A simple sparse black marabou with a little guinea and Amherst is a good start. Look for good surface texture that makes em feel safe and cover some ground looking for moving fish. Don't get caught up fishing the heaviest deepest salmon tanks you can find. That's not where it's gonna go down on a swung fly no matter how much t14 you're fishing. I agree with having some speed on the fly, it works for me and the scary primal reel screaming yanks it induces gives me night sweats. Long live the king!
     

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  5. Klickrolf

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    Moving/migrating chinook are much less likely to take your fly, be it small, large or a perfect replica of what the fish last fed on. This applies to all Chinook, spring, summer or fall. Chinook are much more aggressive when they are pooled up in numbers and jockeying for position. Chinook are least aggressive when moving.
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  6. Sean Beauchamp

    Sean Beauchamp Hot and Heavy at yer 6

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    Lol. Sure thing Rolf. Salmon get grabby again when they are settling into spawn mode and start getting territorial about space and females. Hence why the general consensus is fall kings are better biters. They come in pretty hot and ready to get at it. Springs aren't the same fish at all and their riverine environment is typically 180. I could go on but you know all that. Catching fish starts with understanding your quarry....
     
  7. stilly stalker

    stilly stalker Tuna sniffer

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    I have caught many legit spring/summer kings on the fly. Black/chartreuse, Purple/cerise or Blue/chartreuse work well. LOTS of flash. Pretend its a big ass plug. You want to PISS THE FISH OFF
    The more articulation the better. Swing DEEP and give the fly twitches/strips and you can get some HARD takes. I heard the HOH is closing, but is the Sol Duc still open? those fish are amazing.
    I have a SBS for a double intruder on my old laptop, Ill have to post it. Works amazingly well.
     
  8. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

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    I've never targeted springers but did land one right below Sniveley while bass fishing. It took a small brown BH bunny leech. It was in fairly slow water that I had swung through, although I'm not sure swung would be the right word as it was so slow it was more like dead drifting. It took it as I was slowly stripping it back in. A couple weeks later, a friend I was bass fishing with landed a chinook lower down in the Snively to Hyde stretch. It too was lying in typical bass water.

    So based on this, I'd say the way to catch springers is to simply go bass fishing, LOL!
     
  9. jake-e-boy

    jake-e-boy No mas

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    if only that section was fishable now :(
     
  10. McNasty

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    well been at it a couple weeks now, been tryin it all and still no takes except for some trout and squawfish but i haven't given up as ive seen fish almost every time ive gone. buddy hooked one first cast on gear chucking a spoon the other day.
     
  11. Rod Wittner

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    The lower river is not cooperating... chocolate milk for the last couple of weeks. Does appear to be clearing somewhat today however... Not much time left.
     
  12. suckegg

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    >>>> So based on this, I'd say the way to catch springers is to simply go bass fishing, LOL!

    That's my technique for steelhead on the Columbia ;)
     
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    got so excited last night i almost pissed myself after a massive hit and a big deceptive run, only to land, no joke, a 28-30 inch 9-10 lb. squawfish :D
     
  14. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Any cleaner? I may be on the upper open section briefly tomorrow. Heading to Renton to pick up my Drift Boat :)
     
  15. McNasty

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    pristine, best ive fished it for springers in awhile that i can remember up here right now.