Teaser for Basin lakes opener

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  1. Irafly

    Irafly Indi "Ira" Jones

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    It is called a strike indicator and not a bobber for a reason. If it is bobbing, you are doing it wrong. I loved the video though, and have a couple of my own just like it.

    As for having the patients to watch an indicator... again you must be doing it wrong, I don't have the patience to not watch an indicator.
     
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    chief Active Member

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    Please explain.
     
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    chief Active Member

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    Please explain further.
     
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    Well mostly I was referring to patience not being a good thing when an indicator twitches. Rob is correct that a hook set should have instantly followed that first twitch. In this case it worked out but being able to notice and react quickly to, those subtle takes will often be a big difference maker.

    But really overall, successful vertical presentation is about anything but patience. I used to anchor in the same place for hours, dutifully soaking the same chironomids a foot off the bottom, and while I caught some fish, it really wasnt until I started fishing with Ira that I started to learn the errors of my ways. Now I am not patient at all. If nothing happens in ten minutes then its time to change something.... depth, location, retrieve, and lastly.... fly.

    These days I am a big believer in being active, being observant, and NOT giving in to patience and just sticking with what I know will eventually work. Many times when I first fished with Ira I would not understand his desire to change location when we were doing well by my standards, but I soon figured out that his lack of patience was resulting in my days being way more successful in terms of numbers. And thats just great by me.

    though to be fair plenty of people are just as content to patiently troll buggers all day, enjoy the scenery, and catch a small handful of fish. To each their own.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. I agree with what you say about changing up your game on the water frequently until you dial it in. But there is a fine line between setting too early and waiting for the fish to be committed. It is pretty obvious from the commentary that the subtle movement of the indicator was being noticed. Maybe he could have set a fraction earlier, maybe he waited for just the perfect moment, I guess you had to be there.......
     
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    After watching fish inhale and exhale my flies without ever seeing my indicator twitch, I'm in the "set at the slightest provocation" camp. If your indicator reacts at all, they've committed.
     
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    Just think, in 5 to 10 yrs from now... they'll have an indicator with an app on your Smart phone.

    It'll alert you when a fish is with in (you set the parameters) feet/inches - and set out an alarm (or vibrate) when the fish makes contact.
     
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    Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    Any twitch, change is motion / movement, set! What's the worst that can happen, a recast?
     
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    Or maybe the first twitch was the 9 lb hog that moved on after the initial take and the subsequent takes were the lesser fish ;)

    I certainly dont mean to cast judgement. I for one truly enjoyed the video...certainly not like watching paint dry!
     
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  10. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Not at all, more like watching grass growing or cement drying! :D
    Nice vid chief.

    I hope you guys knock them out this weekend Nick. Make sure to wear your woolies and I look forward to your report.
    SF
     
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    Or maybe that 9lb hog pushed by the fly and the current from his tail made the indicator twitch and setting would have scared him off before he circled back and ate... Sorry if I came off as being touchy. That is not how it was meant. I just know that there a lot of variables when indicator fishing, and it is not always prudent to set at the slightest movement. Fish have all day to inspect a fly under an indicator. I have watched fish circle a fly several times before deciding to take it. The current they generate as they pass by the fly is enough to make the indicator twitch. Same with refusals. If you set recklessly under those circumstances you will spook the fish and/or pull the fly out of the zone, when you might have a chance to catch them when they circle around and commit. I agree that detecting subtle movements is important, it's the Spidey sense thing of deciding what is causing the movement and reacting appropriately that makes the difference. Thanks for the input. If I'm not careful I might learn something from this discussion......
     
  12. Nick Clayton

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    Thanks Brian, unfortunately the weather has already gotten the best of us. Made the call last night that the trip up over the pass and back in this nasty weather just wasnt worth the risk. I think were all gonna fish Pass instead
     
  13. Stonefish

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    Likely a good call Nick.
    I may see you at Pass if I don't go chase searuns this weekend.