The City of Forks Fights Wild Steelhead Harvest Ban.

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Bob Triggs, Feb 19, 2004.

  1. Greg

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    Bob,

    Please correct me where I am wrong, but since the Commission passed the wild steelhead release rule in their final 2004-2005 sportfishing rules meeting, doesn't that mean that recinding that decision would require the Commission to make an "emergency rule change" much like when closing a specific fishery down? What would be the "emergency" to support harvesting wild steelheead? I find it difficult to believe the Commision would reverse that decision under those circumstances, regardless of what the Forks City Council wants. Sounds like an exercise in futility on their part to me probably more for show than actual effect.

    Next year is a "Minor Rules Change" year; I don't see this issue as minor but don't discount that it could be revisited then. 2006 on the other hand would be the year I expect the true battle to be waged.
     
  2. Paul Huffman

    Paul Huffman Driven by irrational exuberance.

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    Can't find the story on Peninsuladailynews.com. Did they pull it?

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  3. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!

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    I feel very strongly that the best approach in this matter, and ones closely related to it, is to sit down and write your own very personal, thoughtful and respectful note to those concerned. This type of letter gets the most attention and gets read. 100 names on a piece of paper is just a piece of paper. 100 letters on a desk is a big pile of letters that represent each individual's views. Don't sleep on this one, these people are loaded for bear.
     
  4. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!

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    Greg, there is a link above to www.forksforum.com which shows a thread to an article in that paper as well. It is a good overview of where the City of Forks is headed with this issue and how they will proceed.
     
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    alpinetrout Banned or Parked

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    The responses I received were pretty positive. I even got a phone call in one case.
     
  6. Steve Buckner

    Steve Buckner Mother Nature's Son

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    What an absolute crock of shit!!! My blood pressure went through the roof when I read this. My fingers have been typing letters so fast they're ready to bleed! Every member of this board should be sending letters to the above.

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  7. miyawaki

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    An Open Letter to the Citizens of Forks


    I feel for you. First logging and now steelhead. I couldn't do anything about the logging but I CAN do something about wild steelhead.

    I will come fish for them.

    I will tell my friends in other states and other countries – my friends who flyfish for Atlantic Salmon in Scotland, Norway and Nova Scotia and my friends who fish for steelhead in Idaho and Oregon and travel north across the border to fish for steelhead in the Dean and Thompson. I will tell them about the wild steelhead runs that will do nothing but become more and more numerous. We will stay in Forks. We will eat and drink in Forks. Some will hire guides in Forks. They will go home and tell their friends of the great fishing and the hospitable people of Forks and they will show photographs of the beautiful steelhead they released back into the water.

    Get ready people of Forks. Your future is coming!


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    Hard to see reality in this one. I mean the City of Forks(its citizens) have cut down every tree larger than a pencil and now they want to ruin the fishery. Who are these folks? The People from Hell?
    I don't know as a boycott threat is a good idea at this point, but if those people do succeed in killing off the native fish, then one would be in order.
    Wouldn't be hard for me to do. I had steak and eggs in the cafe there (I was ravenous and lazy) and it cost me $18.00 or so. And the meat was as knarly a piece as they get. I'll just skip that place which I believe is the only viable business in the whole town.
    A guy came in looking like the mayor and if he is, then they have the most disgusting looking mayor I have ever seen.
    Bob, the Forks thing needs work:beathead
     
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    sent in my opinion on the subject.

    RELEASE ALL WILD STEELHEAD!

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  10. Mike Etgen

    Mike Etgen Not Quite A Luddite, But Can See One From Here

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    New River Mike

    What a great message, Leland. I admire how you are able to find a way to put the issue in such positive terms.

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    Thanks New River Mike,

    We need to look at this in a non-adversarial way. The people of Forks are frightened of the unknown. If this works, in two years, the people of Forks will be turning in their neighbors who are poaching. If they work at it, Forks has a very good chance of becoming the center of our wild steelhead C&R world. Who will be the first to build a fishing resort there?

    Leland.
     
  12. Teeg Stouffer

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    Bob, I am grateful to you for posting this.

    My letters are in the mail to the Forks Forum and to Mayor Reed. I sent e-mails to the chamber of commerce and to the Peninsula Daily News.

    Something that's worth considering:

    When California instituted the first ban on smoking in public, bar owners were in an uproar, they were sure that their business would plummit, and they would be ruined. But the ban passed, and so did time, and their customers kept coming. Some businesses actually improved.

    I neither support nor oppose a ban on smoking in public, but this moratorium seems to be exactly the same kind of case. There's no evidence that this ban will hurt fishing, and on the contrary, if it helps fish numbers, fishing will probably increase as well. But the chicken little effect is on, which is sad.

    The short-sightedness on behalf of the papers is also sad, but you can see where these little papers are coming from. If they take the high road, they're going to have to suffer the consequences the next time they go into one of these little businesses to renew their advertising contract. No doubt about it - content is driven by the advertisers. That's what you have to fight against, too. The opinion leaders.

    It'll still be no easy task.

    Thanks for getting this ball rolling, LS. You're a good man for it.

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  13. ChrisW

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    I think greg is right here. This rule has been passed. The commission knew that it would be contraversial, If it went the other way, they wouldn't be hearing the end of it either. Send a letter saying thanks to the commisioners I say.

    I can't believe the editorial in the Forks Forum. The author blames 'junk science' but he can't quote any other research. He even goes on the warpath to talk about how hysteria over the spotted owl ruined their logging party. Like there would be ANY trees left by now if they continued the way they were. :reallymad

    Their logging was going to end one way or another just like their wild steelhead takes. You can't log a clearcut and you can't kill a fish that ain't there.

    From what I understand that was quite a bit of good science presented to the commission. Is there anywhere in the state where wild steelhead are anywhere near historic levels? I don't think so. If there was a river that was even half of its historic level of wild steelhead, they might have a leg to stand on. I will be checking the stats for wild steelhead escapement on the OP and post the #'s soon.

    BH
     
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    I think "outsiders" attempting to change the attitudes on the west Peninsula is somewhat misguided. Could result in much more animosity towards visiting fishers. The rivers and their fish are public resources and the public has voted for WSR in the form of the Commission. Those in favor of healthy rivers and fish should take the fight to the battleground- the WDFW/regs commisson, the feds and Natl Park Service, etc. Many regions of WA State are going to be dragged into the modern world kicking and screaming. Not sure there's much anyone can do about it but wait for time do do its thing. :-(
     
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    Good point nailknot. Every one should know if you flame them with angry mail you will add fuel to the fire. Lets take the high road.
    I do like Leland's letter though. Money talks. And everyone speaks the language. Thanks for setting an example, and thanks to everyone who worked hard in getting this important rule passed!


    BH