Agreed mike, however, there IS a time frame where it is not crowded at all. I have had many days of maybe seeing two or three people during certain months. I nymph on the go out of my boat. Its not the main technique used, and I honestly caught more fish down there on the swing (I agree, tons of good swinging water). Without pointing a finger at one outfit, I would have to say that it is guide boats that are the main issue here. I almost never see them stop and swing, or even get out of the boat. Boy they were out in force this year too.