NFR The "Knockout Game"?

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  1. Alex MacDonald

    Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    do some research on the first part of your statement, then get back to us. Start with Dr. John Lott.

    I think I'll go out to the range for awhile this morning; get in a little practice on the ol`double tap.
     
  2. Krusty

    Krusty Krusty Old Effer

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    It sort of depends on the perp. While the deranged and enraged might not be dissuaded from attack upon display of a weapon, those seeking a despicable positive outcome for themselves (such as mugging with intent of robbery) are often convinced that selecting a different (and unarmed) victim is less risky. Dr. Lott's work is well respected for its academic integrity.

    And Alex, I do hope you're packing something bigger than that little ladylike .380!
     
  3. obiwankanobi

    obiwankanobi Active Member

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    Haha this article is ridiculous. I don't keep a load tactical shotgun by my nightstand to aid my escape plans when an intruder enters my house. He will leave with a face full of 00 buckshot.
     
  4. flyfishmt

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    Here is a little justice:

    LANSING, Mich. - A teen ended up getting shot in the buttocks and arrested after failing at the "knockout" game, according to video from geobeats.

    Marvell Weaver, 17, put his own twist on the game - in which a person tries to knock out another person with one punch - by trying to use a Taser on a man waiting for his 6-year-old son to be released from school, geobeats says.

    The Taser didn't work, and the intended victim pulled out a concealed .40-caliber gun and shot him in the leg and buttocks.

    Weaver said he and his friends had been smoking pot and drinking prior to the attack.
     
  5. generic

    generic Active Member

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    That's the one I was referring to earlier. Maybe if it was known, that most people carried, problems like this wouldn't happened.

    I mean, would you take a chance hitting somebody that was carrying?
     
  6. JayB

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    FWIW he was talking about threats in public places, not home defense.
     
  7. shotgunner

    shotgunner Anywhere ~ Anytime

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    Good observation. Another snippit to the same story.

     
  8. obiwankanobi

    obiwankanobi Active Member

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    You must not have read the entire article since here is an excerpt from it..
    Even if you are at home, in possession of a firearm, and well trained to use it, when confronted by an intruder your best defense is to get out of the house as quickly as possible. In such a circumstance, a gun is a means of ensuring that no one can block your exit.[9] good luck to those that apply this means of survival....
     
  9. KerryS

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    I have been saying for years we should enact a law stating that all citizens should carry a firearm with them at all times.
     
  10. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Except that we'd probably start arguing as to which caliber, number of rounds allowed, and concealed or exposed, we finally agree on something. Having said that, there are some amongst the population for which a slingshot would be more appropriate.
     
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  11. Lugan

    Lugan Joe Streamer

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    All citizens carrying a firearm? I'm honestly curious why you think it's so dangerous in the US that we need to arm ourselves like people do In Afghanistan and Syria. I'm starting to think you're a bunch of scared old ladies. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Krusty

    Krusty Krusty Old Effer

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    Really? Remember you're talking about a population many of which have (but shouldn't) drivers licenses or been allowed to raised children! :)
     
  13. jessejames

    jessejames Flyslinger

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    I knew when Kaiserman posted this thread it would either turn into political or gun debate OR BOTH so I am not disappointed!
    Boy, I don't want to live in a country that demanded everyone carry a gun. There are too many crazies out there that are unarmed, what would it be like if they all carried? If we are going there the gov't would have to provide weapons to the poor people who can't afford one. Great Idea!!!:eek:
    jesse
     
  14. Jim Ficklin

    Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    I ALWAYS carry, where legal. I also practice both accessing & shooting A LOT. I'm also "competent" re: hand-to-hand self defense. Because of these abilities & preparations those now somehow make me "scared?" Methinks yon knave jests. These things render me prepared . . . nothing more, nothing less. To each his/her own choices; my first choice is to never be a defenseless victim (there's not much I can do to eliminate the second half of that phrase, but in my case, that determination would be made by a perp cursed with bad judgment and worse luck. And as Luke cited: ". . . situational awareness . . ." . . . it IS your friend. I, too favor more capable, legal, legitimate folks carrying; accept the fact that too many on the opposite end of that spectrum already do.
     
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  15. Rob Allen

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    put the parents in prison for 10 years but just before they go in they get to spend 1 hour disciplining in any way they see fit..