I popped for a Hawken Rifle in .50 for elk this year, and we've had the first trip out to the range. For those who aren't familiar with Hawkens, they were made beginning around 1815 in St.Louis, and some-not all, by any stretch-of the famous mountain men carried them. Men like Kit Carson, Jim Bridger, and Joe Meek had Hawkens. Designed as a long range plains rifle, they were highly prized and extremely accurate. Mine's no different. And before you all call bullshit, remember that the Pedersoli Gibbs .451 is accurate out past one THOUSAND yards, with a dose of Schutzen black powder. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...395869466.4626.100000907197830&type=1&theater That's3 shots in virtually one hole, near 6 o`clock. The distance isn't great, only 25 yards with open sights, but these rifles will reach out over 400 yards with pretty much the same accuracy. Patched round ball, 1 in 66inch twist, 100gr of Schutzen German black powder. For the last shot, I raised the rear sight a smidgen, and you can see the results just below the bull. A little more tweaking with the three types of powder I have, Goex, Schutzen and Swiss, and it should be shooting like that out to about 185-200 yards. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=733966623310237&set=pcb.733967133310186&type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=733966886643544&set=pcb.733967133310186&type=1&theater I hope these photos come out! Don't know to access photobucket yet, but I might try it next. Keep your fingers crossed!