The ultimate fishing sidearm?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Kent Lufkin, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. Snake

    Snake tryin' not to get too comfortable

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    Amen, sister! Common sense is far more useful (and sadly, seemingly in much shorter supply) than firearms for SHTF avoidance/closure.

    iagreeiagree
    It's the people that do (carry like it's the wild west, that is) that worry me.

    For anyone considering a good handgun safety class: http://www.firearmsacademy.com/

    Plus, it's close to the Newaukum River, which is kinda fishy, if you can find public access.

    Here's another thread that might be of interest to anyone staying on this topic up to this point (even though it's a few years aged): http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-147439.html


    Hey Nate, kinda ironic you use a Gonzo quote for your signature line, huh? Not trying to be a dick or anything, I just think it's funny.......
     
  2. StiffLegged Van Rossi

    StiffLegged Van Rossi Gonzo Phishin'

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    Take a jab give a jab! I've read your responses and wouldn't call them welcoming cup-of-Nice!
     
  3. Snake

    Snake tryin' not to get too comfortable

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    Personally, I respect that Nate respects my respect for my firearm. :D
     
  4. StiffLegged Van Rossi

    StiffLegged Van Rossi Gonzo Phishin'

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    Hey Nate, kinda ironic you use a Gonzo quote for your signature line, huh? Not trying to be a dick or anything, I just think it's funny.......[/QUOTE]


    Good point about Hunter and the quote, not to mention his life and the way he went out! Guns and all...I just enjoy his books and he was part of my parents crowd a while back. I don't always agree with what he stood for but I don't agree with some of these posts either! BooYAA!
     
  5. cuponoodle breakfast

    cuponoodle breakfast free bird

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    One post may claim respect, but the others imply gun owners are out "gun slinging" and recreating the wild west. I respect anyone's choice to not carry or own a gun. I just don't want them forcing that choice on me or making judgements about all gun owners.
    My point about guns in the grocery store is that CPL holders are everywhere but you don't know it because they aren't out looking for trouble or doing anything unusual.
     
  6. Randall Clark

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    can't we all just get along?

    personally, I don't really see what the deal is with Nate's posts...some people just seem to be a little overly sensitive.

    ~Randy
     
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    good on ya...:beer2:
     
  8. Sloan Craven

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    I'm not known as being Mr Sensitivity, but I see "what the deal is".
    I'm not a gun nut, don't carry a gun and don't own a gun. However, whatever someone's reason is for not liking guns I think the "I have never experienced the desire for a side-arm and I've 'been around', therefore there is no reason for people to want to carry a gun," is really, really wrong. I mean, I am astounded that someone would actually use that argument. I know people feel that and will use that as motivation in their voting, will use that as argument of theri views when talking with like-minded freinds, and will chant that as a mantra in marches and rallies. However, it is such an egocentrical perspective/argument I am surprised that someone would use it as fodder with a bunch of strangers. THe first reason is we're strangers: I don't know your experiences and you don't know mine. The other reason: its pretty condescending for a person to assume a position of expertise because they think they've 'been around'.
     
  9. Richard Olmstead

    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    Sloan -
    The other side of that coin is that we can only speak from our experiences. Trying to do otherwise is more of a problem. If someone's experience is that they don't own/carry a gun and have never felt a need, that is as valid a perspective as the person who is paranoid about being in the woods because they fear bears/cougars and by carrying a piece they feel secure. I won't deny either's experience and hope you wouldn't either.
    Dick
     
  10. Sloan Craven

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    Richard-
    I view the posts made here that I call the "I have never experienced the desire for a side-arm and I've 'been around', therefore there is no reason for people to want to carry a gun" perspective aren't really interested in the flip side of the coin. Maye I'm reading too much into it, but it seems to be an end-argument. If it was "I feel this way , but I've been lucky", or 'but' anything, I admit it would be a different story. Instead, it seems that certain people are denying the experiences of people who do feel that a side-arm could be beneficial.

    For me, I try to take more of a 'tall fences make for good neighbors' prespective as far as politics and religion goes. THere are exceptions when it gets too loud on the other side of the fence, that I feel I need to get my hose. If you worship chickens on the other side of your fence and I don't have to hear or see it, go nuts. My experiences really don't matter.

    I do appreciate your openness, though.
     
  11. PT

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    You "rest your case" based on one person's viewpoint? Or even that some other's have the same opinion? But you disregard the validity of others conclusions/decisions about this issue?
     
  12. Be Jofus G

    Be Jofus G Banned or Parked

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    Case? What Case? Allison chooses to use the buddy system instead of a firearm to keep herself safe. It is a valid method of self defense that has been around since man started walking the earth and still holds true today. Please direct me to a post where you wrote anything remotly related to that. Rest your case? Someone besides you makes an intellegent reply about something unrelated to your rants and somehow that validates your special ed esque ramblings about nothing? If you want to argue with me, fine. If you want to contine to personally threaten me over pms, fine. At least back up what you're saying with a semi-coherant thought process and debate whatever it is you wish to debate. I am not shy or offendable. I have been in heated arguments with members here, some to the point of namecalling and personal insults before. At least we all walked away from the argument with a new perspective on things and more knowledge in our heads than when we started. That is the point of all of these discussions. To improve ourselvs weather it be as fishermen, outsdoorsmen or, in general, human beings. I have asked you before and am asking again. If you do not wish to contribute anything other than insults and BS to this conversation please go away and save the babble you're spewing out for your shrink.

    freaking trolls
     
  13. Randall Clark

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    I think that people get worked up over posts, like those by Nate, when sometimes it's difficult to determine exactly what the person is trying to say...but that's just the way it is with email, posts, etc...I guess I just read it a little differently than you did. Part of the 'curse' of the internet is that ones true intent might be lost. I can,however, see why you'd interpret it differently.
     
  14. PhlyPhisher

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    Hey Nate, kinda ironic you use a Gonzo quote for your signature line, huh? Not trying to be a dick or anything, I just think it's funny.......[/QUOTE]

    Hey Guys,
    You kind of lost me. Excuse my ignorance, but who's "Gonzo"? :confused: :eek:

    I'm fairly new to this site/forum and maybe this is the way things get here. But I'm worried that the moderator is going to shut down this discussion because of the personal attacks and/or insults. It's starting to appear that nothing new is being added to the discussion. This has been the longest running thread I've seen. I'd hate to see it degrade into a petty squabble.
     
  15. Be Jofus G

    Be Jofus G Banned or Parked

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    Gonzo is a purple muppet with a big hooked nose that strongly resembles a TROLL. Looks sort of like a purple peril but it probably won't catch a steelhead. It may be good for baithooking tuna though. :D