The ultimate fishing sidearm?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Kent Lufkin, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. StiffLegged Van Rossi

    StiffLegged Van Rossi Gonzo Phishin'

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    I apologize to those I have offended or got pissy with. A) people are reading way too much into my response and not getting the big picture of my opinion, which is just that B) I just don't agree with having to carry a gun around all the time and that is OK C) As I stated many times before it is about being responsible if you do carry!

    BTW...this is a tough group (or just a few individuals), and I think people need to consider the flip side before immediately planning your attack. Think of it this way if you shoot first most likely someone will shoot a pissy response back. If someone disagrees on any post here it becomes an immediate dooms day for them which doesn't seem to add the most value to these posts.
     
  2. Snake

    Snake tryin' not to get too comfortable

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  3. Keith Hixson

    Keith Hixson Active Member

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    About 10 years ago I was doing the late deer hunt in the Selkirks above Newport. I got caught in a nice snow storm. There was already a six inches or better snow on the ground, but I continued to hunt. I circled around behind myself to see if any deer were following me (white tails will do that). Anyway as I came across my tracks that I had just left in fresh snow they were joined by cougar tracks. I headed out into the middle of the closest clearcut as fast as I could go, watching my backside very carefully. Never did see the Kitty. But I had been stalked. Don't know how serious he was or how close he came to me but he was only a few minutes behind me at the most.

    Keith
     
  4. Sloan Craven

    Sloan Craven Active Member

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    In the most serious and respectful way possible...... are you condemning your own behavior now?
     
  5. doublespey

    doublespey Steelhead-a-holic

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    Hmmm - I guess threads like this are how people get their post-counts up in the thousands. :)

    My only comment is that, while I don't "pack" while fishing, I've also considered what I'd do if a favorite steelhead run (or parking area) suddenly had a rash of incidents involving tweakers, attacks, or bear/cougar incidents.

    I like to fish alone and if I liked the spot enough, I might consider packing if I decided that made me feel safer. But fishing isn't about combat (for me), so I'd just as likely to start scouting for other places to fish.

    It's a choice we each get to make. If I did decide to carry a gun with me while fishing, I think Kent's suggestion would get a serious look.

    Fish On,

    Brian
     
  6. Don Freeman

    Don Freeman Free Man

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    After reading all these posts, I still can't conceive of why I might need a pistol while fishing. I spent 13 months in Viet Nam, carrying at least one weapon every blessed minute, and never once wished I had a fly rod.

    Now I've got like 30 years fly fishing the NW, usually in really remote areas, and never needed a weapon. The occasions when one might are a lot scarcer than you'd be led to believe, and there's usually a better way out.

    BTW, shooting people doesn't provide anywhere the warm and fuzzy you think it does when you're admiring your reflection in the mirror with your newest "ultimate fishing side arm".

    If you really want to play with guns, join the marines. I've done both and fishing wins every time.
     
  7. PT

    PT Physhicist

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    And after reading thru this thread I can't find one post where someone has stated it makes them feel warm and fuzzy to carry.

    What is the ultimate fishing sidearm? One that doesn't get used.
     
  8. StiffLegged Van Rossi

    StiffLegged Van Rossi Gonzo Phishin'

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    No. Do you ever let up? Give it a break, man!
    :beathead:
     
  9. Mike T

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    Most people who enjoy and work in the outdoors never need to call a game warden, the police, search and rescue or to wish they had a weapon. However sometimes they do like the two women who were murdered while hiking at Pilchuck this year; http://www.komotv.com/news/archive/4191476.html.

    It's your life, it's your call.

    My house has never had a fire, but I do have smoke alarms.
    No one's ever broken into my hoome, but I do lock the windows.
    I've never needed airbags in a car, but I bought a car that has 6.
    My house has never flooded but I have flood insurance.
    I've never fallen while on my road bike or motorcycle, yet I wear helmets.
    I've never gotten lost in the woods but I carry a compass, map &gps.
    I've never gotten hurt in the woods but I carry a whistle.

    If taking these precautions doesn't make me paranoid, why would taking reasonable steps to protect myself from a violent attack from human or animal make me paranoid? How would this somehow degrade others outdoor experiences?
     
  10. Scott Keith

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    iagree Well said!
     
  11. Dick Warnke

    Dick Warnke was Pram-Man

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    Thanks Mike T......Well Said!! Why can't everyone just leave it as a to each his own!! :confused:
     
  12. qrider13

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    Scott, I like your philosophy of being prepared! That is how I have thought since I was a small child. Well said!
     
  13. Sloan Craven

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    Just asking a question.... Seemed like you were putting out an olive branch then the tone kind of changed... so I asked.
     
  14. Ryan Nathe

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    How is this thread not locked? I think people should just get out and fish more, as for me, I am just waiting for 3 am to roll around so I can start driving to the river!
     
  15. kingpuck

    kingpuck new to fly fishing but loving every minute of it

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    common sense at its best thanks for the great post. So many times I think I'm in the minority of people who think that the problem doesn't have a quick answer but one that will need some time and elbow grease to work out. Tight lines my friend, tight lines!