I actually met Mike Kinney the other day and couldn't help but notice his diamond encrusted Rolex and Hummer he was driving at the boat launch. He also said that with the money he made from the Deer Creek rod, he is buying an island in the Seychelles and opening a lodge with a private jet................JUST KIDDING. The guy was very nice and very quiet. He shot down the Skagit ahead of us in his drifter and we didn't see him again on our drift and we didn't catch anything but a little dollie.......I wonder why?!?!