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Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by chadk, Feb 20, 2006.

  1. Davy

    Davy Active Member

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    yeah Kent, I ended up with all these bobbins from buying others tyers collections over the years, box lots, ones given to me by people, contest prizes, you name it etc. Had to to do sumthin with them.
     
  2. Minx

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    What Crobarr said was true, I popped alot of whip finishes with too many wraps, too tight, or pulling too fast. I understand Chadk too, lot of times I gotta put the flybox in another room at night, some of those ties wake me up at night with scary dreams :eek:
     
  3. chadk

    chadk Be the guide...

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    Yeah, I wonder what other guys do with their creations gone bad and those first try flies that just don't turn out well at all?
     
  4. Minx

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    I got stuff in my box a straight razor refuses to cut off the hook, when I get the courage, I'll post a pix of the "BAP" fly I created, articulated, little Bow River Bugger in it, got some wooly bugger in it, shoot, even got a tungsten cone head on it.......chuck :)
     
  5. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Recycle the hook.

    K
     
  6. wet line

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    Breaking thread is normal! All the suggestions are valid but there is one other thing that will break thread. Even if one uses a bobbin, I don't, the roughness of skin and finger nails can fray thread in a heart beat! Before tying I always sand my finger tips and finger nails with very fine sand paper, an emory board will work.

    Those flies you don't like, start a collection of every pattern you tie. Even if they are ragged keep one. Over the years your tastes will change but for some unknown reason you will go back and try to remember some creation you tied years ago that worked but won't be able to recall exactly what it looked like. It is also kind of fun to go back and look at how your tying has progressed over time and you will wonder how in the heck did you ever tie up those size 20 nymphs when you were younger and could still see well enough to tie them on a line. :rofl:

    Dave
     
  7. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    Well Chad's new at this and he will continue to break thread until he learns that you don't need to reef down on your thread to keep your junk in line. A couple of turns of thread will keep most stuff in place..

    We all went thru this stage.

    Jim
     
  8. chadk

    chadk Be the guide...

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    true... But hey, I was tying with mono thread last night and it never broke on me once :)
     
  9. MrP

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    When I teach a fly tying class to beginners I have them fasten the thread to the hook and pull on the thread slowly until it breaks. We do that two or three times so they get used to how much pressure 6/0 thread will take. Do it a few times when you're not creating a masterpiece and it might help your feel for things. Once in a great while you may get a bad spool of thread but that's usually not the problem.

    A metal bobbin will work fine for many years, it needs to be a good one to start with though. Ditto sanding your fingers. I just use a fine emery board particularly when I have been working in the yard. With practice you can spin deer hair with 6/0 thread.

    This time of year fly tying is so satisfying. Keep trying, there are lots of rewards awaiting you.
     
  10. wet line

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    Regarding waxed shanks and stain bleed through in the 30 plus years of tying I have never experienced this phenomenum. I still have quite a few light colored nymphs I tied many years ago that I always carry with me as well as a few dries that have not discolored. Though I do have quite a few light flies that are discolored due to rusty shanks.

    I would be interested in more information as I have not seen this happen!!!

    Keep at it Chad. When you are ready I have some cutthroat Spey and Dee style flies that you can replicate. They worked well last year for me. I also have some soft feather streamers that are pretty easy to tie and look really good in the water. These are not as difficult to tie as one may think. Time consuming yes, but you will learn a lot by tying them that will help greatly with other patterns.

    Dave
     
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    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    Yeah Dave's been trying for years to tie flies. I know as I have seen some of them.:p :p :p :p Keep trying Dave.

    Jim
     
  12. wet line

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    Jim,
    I finally gave up tying naturals on the hook. I was cutting too many of them in half when I snugged up the thread. Now I just catch one and super glue the sucker to the hook. They are a bit fragile but very realistic. :rofl:

    Dave
     
  13. Keith Hixson

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    I have had the same problem with thread breaking. Danville and Rumpf thread 6/0 was breaking like crazy. I complained at the local Fly Shop that they don't make thread like they use to. (I've been tying for over 30 yrs.) I bought some UNI-Thread. No more breaking. I was told at the fly shop I was pulling to hard. I agree I like to make sure my fly is tied tight but I never had this problem with breaking before. I think there is some poor quality threads out there. Stick with UNI-thread. It seems to be a lot stronger.

    K.
     
  14. chadk

    chadk Be the guide...

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    Well, I bought a new bobbin (ceramic) and so far it is pretty obvious that 90% of the issues I was having was a result of the old bobbin. I still broke off a few times, but not at the same rate I had been. I also noticed that I broke off 2 times more often on my black thread than I was on the red or brown I was using (all 6/0 - not sure if all were Danville or not, but the black definately was).
     
  15. Keith Hixson

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    Go to UNI-Thread. It will make all the difference.

    K.