To Clear Cut or Not To Clear Cut??...

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by FinLuver, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. FinLuver

    FinLuver Active Member

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    As I "expose" the "truth" for "others" to read...

    I'm Luvin' It!! :p
     
  2. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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  3. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    I knew a guy in high school who would baselessly call people alcoholics. Then they'd deny it and he'd say "denial, the fisrst sign of alhoholism They'd get angry and he'd say "anger, the second sign!" This thread reminds me of this.

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  5. FinLuver

    FinLuver Active Member

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    FinLuver said:
    LOL...did you "Mumble" something??​
    We all understood him jackass!
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    Must be an aspect of the "alcoholism" mentioned above.
     
  6. FinLuver

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    benny...you gettin' your money's worth?? :D
     
  7. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    No, you need to post some new material,that or the ice tea ain't working
     
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  8. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Article cites OSU Forestry, a group I consider completely untrustworthy and politically compromised. Here is a very ugly example of the OSU crew trying to pull a peer reviewed paper because it did not meld with their political (i.e. log everything to f***ing dirt) world view.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit_Fire_publication_controversy

    Make note, under citation #7 that M. Newton is one of the professors involved in this asshatery. He would be the Newton in the link you shared.

    There is no paradox.
     
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  9. flybill

    flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

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  10. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Your "cute" use of "quotations" is "embarrassing". My friends call me Mumbles. Why not stick to calling me Ed, I prefer that approach from annonymous screen name agitators that have not made it a point to get to know me or the vast membership here. Hope that's okay with you FinLover.
     
  11. cabezon

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    Hi David,
    I'm glad that someone else remembers that controversy. It was quite clear to me that a number of bought-and-paid for faculty at OSU were trying to squelch the publication and throw mud on the scientific reputation of a graduate student. I was extremely annoyed that my congressman, Brian Baird, participated in this #$*@. I wrote his office a long detailed email questioning his opposition to these science findings; his criticisms (and the OSU ones) were superficial and trivial. At that time, Baird was conspiring with various Oregon congressmen to push salvage logging in the area.

    Steve
     
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    In spite of the reek of forest product industry bias, I found this study somewhat interesting. What this seems to be completely overlooking is that historically, the bulk of food for trout and juvenile salmon came from salmon biomass, not photosynthesis. If fish were dependent on sunshine, then heavily forested rivers like this one in the Tongass National Park in Alaska should be virtually barren of fish:

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    It's a miracle that the species managed to survive as long as they did without the clear cuts.

    What's next, they love dams?
     
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    hmmm many of the things posted as facts by the author are directly contradicted by our fisheries biologists.

    1 water quality in rural streams is often listed as a limiting factor for salmonids
    2. in no place that I know of to biologists claim cool water temps are a limiting factor but warm water is almost universally listed as a limiting factor.. particularly in commercial forest land.
     
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  15. FinLuver

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    "i wonder if there are any other groups using faux science to justify their positions? "

    Why YES, yes there are many... ;)