To wax or not to wax

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Jack Devlin, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Kids Glue Stick
     
  2. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Really? I've got dozens of those dang things around here. Never thought to try it. I will now, thanks Daryle.
     
  3. scottflycst

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    I only tried wax once. Made me scream like a girl when I ripped that stuff off. Who in the hell would want to do that again?
     
  4. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Two admissions against self interest there Scott:
    1. You screamed like a girl - no one asked if anyone ever screamed like a girl
    2. You waxed yourself and admitted to it - no one asked if you waxed yourself, we were talking about flies
    Now that you've properly redirected this thread into some sort of deviant direction, how'd that Brazillian Buns wax job work for you?
     
  5. Jack Devlin

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    Well, the last few posts have distracted me from the serious subject of fly tying waxes. We could continue with a discussion of Brazilian waxing , "Hollywood Wax", landing strips etc., but I think we should go back to fly tying wax.

    As suggested earlier, I tried some glue stick stuff today (kids wax) ON MY THREAD and it seemed to work fine. Certainly an inexpensive alternative to specific fly tying wax. As for myself, I will continue to wax MY THREAD as I have done for years. I guess it is part of the ritual or process of tying. Lord knows I have enough wax now to last a few tiers lifetimes with enough left over to do a few floors and yes perhaps even a few Brazilians.
    Jackd
     
  6. Loopy

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    Ditto

    My dark cobbler's wax comes from a stick made for waxing bagpipes I am led to believe it's one and the same.

    Sometimes I do use Dilly Wax on thread to help with dubbing deer hair.

    :)
     
  7. Evan Salmon

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    Silver on soft bodies, red for dries? :thumb:
     
  8. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    Back then I didn't know SWIX came in different colors. I had problems with dubbed bodies back then. I think I was playing with something hard like rabbit and needed a tacky wax to help spin it on. You know how tough rabbit is to noodle on thread.
     
  9. Jack Devlin

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    The dark cobblers wax is used on the bagpipe joints. It is mostly pitch. I too use it to darken Pearsalls. Say, what is DILLY wax? That's a new one for me?
    Thanks, Jackd
     
  10. Mark Walker

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    Dilly wax..........isn't that the stuff off the DQ cups?
     
  11. Jack Devlin

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    I just looked up Dilly wax. It is a fly floatant. Never saw it before.
     
  12. Loopy

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    It is sold as a fly floatant and works well for that purpose however I use it especially for a Deer Hair dub for some large sedge patterns and it holds the dubbing surprisingly well against other forms - it also helpss the sedge to float that little bit longer.

    Hope that helps.
     
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    Thanks Loopy. I will get some Dilly Wax and give a try. I see it is made by FLY RITE. I didn't think that company was still around. Probably over 30 years in business.
    I wonder if it has any silicone??? as most of the floatants do???
     
  14. freestoneangler

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    I started out using wax and dubbing loops, but I've subsequently found that for most of the smaller size flies (which I tend to tie 8-20), I really do not need either to get the build-up and profile desired. This is particularly true when using dubbing like Natures Spirit which, unlike natural guard hairs, are much easier to wind to thread. I also find wax tends to mat down the build up and look less natural.
     
  15. Olive bugger

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    I too has wondered about the smell of things. Bee's wax has a very sweet smell. Wonder if that could be construed
    as an attractant? Some of the glues and adhesives not so much, but a strong odor. I have no experience with the
    UV cured adhesives. Perhaps someone with more savvy understanding of these things could jump in and enlighten us on the subject.