Tribes want free Discover Passes

yellowlab

Active Member
#19
I'll gladly exchange forward my pass for the rights to fish in some of the natives water... The Pass has been wonderful for me since it puts me away from the crowds, I can launch a boat, and usually there is a fresh water rinse station, restrooms, and plenty of parking available. Worth the price especially for another $30 it includes all the boat launches at state parks.
 

Charles Sullivan

ignoring Rob Allen and Generic
#20
For Ribka from the thread entitled Forum Rules:

"Political discussions have no place on the board unless it's in direct relation to the impact of a fishery."

I too have strong beliefs, but I choose to respect the rules. Plus I actually like not having to deal with politics here. I don't expect you to be as good as me, but I would appreciate you showing some respect. Thanks.

Go Red Sox,
cds
 

ribka

Active Member
#21
For Ribka from the thread entitled Forum Rules:

"Political discussions have no place on the board unless it's in direct relation to the impact of a fishery."

I too have strong beliefs, but I choose to respect the rules. Plus I actually like not having to deal with politics here. I don't expect you to be as good as me, but I would appreciate you showing some respect. Thanks.

Go Red Sox,
cds
You mean no politics like this posters before me?

As long as you critisize the right side seems to be ok on wff.

Thanks

The "well to do" don't worry about paying taxes or fees:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...hat-s-tariffic
 

Charles Sullivan

ignoring Rob Allen and Generic
#22
I don't speak for WFF, just me.

DFL should not have posted that either, but to be fair I just brushed over his post and didn't see it.

The 2 of you should just get a room anyhow.

Your retort does prove my point though, that when you use the forum as your own political soapbox, those of us that don't are left to suffer. One option that you had when dealing with DFL was to ask him to comply with the rules, just as you do (if you did). Another option was to use his post as an excuse to also not comply with the rules (which you did).

I am not a moderator, so I have no right to tell you what to do. I also don't want to hijack this worthwhile thread. I just ask that you show a little respect. The political season is here, I'm getting phone calls etc. and I do enjoy this little oasis of non-partisan fishing talk. Thanks.

Go Red Sox,
cds
 

Kent Lufkin

Remember when you could remember everything?
#23
Forgot that these days we can pick and choose the laws we wish to follow.
'Zactly right! How many folks in this state stubbornly drive at exactly the posted speed limit in the left lane on the freeway and force faster drivers to pass them on the right. But while being so self-righteous about following one law, they freely break another by ignoring the signs posted every few miles warning Slower Traffic Keep Right.

K
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#24
'Zactly right! How many folks in this state stubbornly drive at exactly the posted speed limit in the left lane on the freeway and force faster drivers to pass them on the right. But while being so self-righteous about following one law, they freely break another by ignoring the signs posted every few miles warning Slower Traffic Keep Right.

K
They do this on purpose? All this time I thougth they were illiterate idiots and didn't know anybetter.
 

dryflylarry

"Chasing Riseforms"
#25
The Discover Pass legislation was originally requested by DNR, Washington Fish & Wildlife, and Washington State Parks. How
can an agency such as WDFW "overlook" the subject of a pass that covers more than one frigging car? On the current fishing license it has room for two license plates! This, I know, is a sore subject to most of us fisherman I think. Whomever represented WDFW when they got together to discuss this proposed matter either knew they were screwing us or they still had cobwebs from lack of no coffee that morning, when making decisions on implementing this fee. They also, apparently, also forgot to include the tribes.
 

Charles Sullivan

ignoring Rob Allen and Generic
#26
'Zactly right! How many folks in this state stubbornly drive at exactly the posted speed limit in the left lane on the freeway and force faster drivers to pass them on the right. But while being so self-righteous about following one law, they freely break another by ignoring the signs posted every few miles warning Slower Traffic Keep Right.

K
Where I come from we call these people massholes. Of course, we ignored the granite staters doing the same thing.

I just got back from Montana and it isn't just our state. There is just more of us on this side of the hills.

Go Sox,
cds
 
#27
This is what happens when wide-scale tax rates fall at federal and state levels. We get nickel and dimed on a per use basis. Discover Pass is just the latest of many such ticky tacky fees that in fact just replace falling lump sum tax revenues. Then people get mad that they are getting nickel and dimed, including many of the same people who scream and yell for lower taxes.
Sorry Lugan, You are full of sheit. and should probably do a little reading View attachment 43712

The states revenue is increasing. They are collecting more taxes than ever in the history of the state. If you owned or operated a business you would know this. The issue is government run agencies are in charge of running more and more every year. Not sure if you've noticed but they generally suck ass at everything they have ever tried to run. This is what happens when you give a retard a credit card.

Don't buy the our economy is bad Bullsheit. It only apears bad because they are spending on credit and getting shittier rates as the debt to revenue gap rises. it's easy to sping numbers when you pay interest. The $30 Discovery pass isn't paying to maintain anything. It's paying interest on a bad loan our governer took out on god knows what that we probably didn't need in the first place.


Washington state is an outdoor lover's dream, and public demand for outdoor recreation opportunities on state lands continues to grow. However, the state's budget crisis makes it difficult to keep up with this demand. Shrinking revenues makes it impossible for current taxes to maintain existing facilities, let alone develop new ones
That is from the discover pass web site.

It's BS. We don't have shrinking revenue. We have increased revenue, however, our debt is increasing. I can show you that chart as well or you can look it up yourself. I'd advise the latter.
 

Bob Triggs

Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!
#28
I would like to see the Tribes get a free pass for all Tribal members and their guests. I would also like to see a sliding fee / no fee scale for low income, or no income, poverty and underpriveledged people etc. And if they want this fee system to work they should be charging a flat rate for all activities and access, to include all of the boat ramps statewide, and a $5.00 day rate at most! (even at that price the parks lost most of their attendance the last time we did this!)

Some people may see the fee as a good thing "for fishing" as it reduces angler pressure in the parks etc. But I see that as a terrible thing because for many people the parks were all that they had, and now they can not afford that. The Public Parks were meant for everyone, not just those with money.
 
#29
Sorry Lugan, You are full of sheit. and should probably do a little reading View attachment 43712

The states revenue is increasing. They are collecting more taxes than ever in the history of the state. If you owned or operated a business you would know this. The issue is government run agencies are in charge of running more and more every year. Not sure if you've noticed but they generally suck ass at everything they have ever tried to run. This is what happens when you give a retard a credit card.
I'm not going to step too far in to this, but I don't think that graph is showing what you think it's showing. The GDP of the state is growing (slowly), but tax revenues aren't. And state spending is pretty stagnant. Here's a graph that better outlines that:

View attachment 43713

That's about all I'll say on the subject.

Matthew
 

Chris Scoones

Administrator
Staff member
#30
As for the political BS, the rules won't flex. If it continues on this discussion topic I'll either have the time to remove the applicable posts or I won't have the time and will just smoke the entire topic.

Those wishing to remind folks of the rules should instead use the little "Report Post" button located below peoples posts to notify moderators of it with your comments.

Thanks,

Chris