Brian, I use my traditional rods (CND, Loop Yellow line, Sage) for summer run on the rivers now. It’s the best way to swing line with the traditional/slower action rods. For overheading, I like the fastest rods I can get. For off the beach for Coho, I will go to the Meiser 15 footer. You know guys, we are getting a lot more response to a 2 handed salt clave this year. What I will do since we all may not be able to meet as a group, I will meet with you individually at anytime after I get my kids back to the EX on the 15th. I’ll bring my cutthroat 5120 to the 15 footer if you want to check it out and use my rods. I don’t have an Atlantis, but maybe somebody can bring one. They are cool to play with. Mostly I’d like to BS about lines ( building, weights, off the shelf and different types of running lines ). Also, there are baskets, flies and technique we could pretend that we know a lot about. Lincoln Park, Shilshole, Carkeek, Richmond, Picnic Point, Meadowdale, Mulkilteo, Howarth, Whatever. PM me and we will hook up. They are already catching Coho and Pinks out there. Slowly, but it is starting.