Unhappy Russians on the Stilly

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  1. Richard Olmstead

    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    Coach (I'll address this to you, even though the message properly belongs to many who have chimed in),

    While I agree with your statement about a bit of -ism in all of us and the need to be cognizant, in order to minimize, if not eliminate, it, I think you rant was a bit overboard in its condemnation of "people who pull out the racism card." Your comment seemed intended to inflame a situation while clearly pointing a finger at those who would press for tolerance and praising someone who would express intolerance.

    Bonefish Jack gave a very mild reprimand to Gary's rather abrupt condemnation, certainly his comments didn't merit the sort of reply you gave. 509's comment was strictly tongue in cheek, which I think anyone familiar with his prior posts would recognize (and which should have been clear without such familiarity). I don't see any posts in this thread that merited your outburst.

    I suspect you are a great coach; you certainly know how to incite emotions and make a mountain of a molehill. I hope your players know how to balance that in their 'real' lives.

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  2. Coach Duff

    Coach Duff Banned or Parked

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    Richard (I'll address this just to you) you are full of shit. Simple as that. The "molehill" (some guys caught poaching) became a mountain as soon as the R world (racist for all of you keeping score) was introduced improperly and introduced without proper definition by our fellow angler Bonefish Jack. Hence my post commenting that the last 10 times or so I've seen it used, it was used by someone who didn't even know what it meant. I stand by what I said even more so now. The word is arguably the most inflammatory word used in today's English language and you had better have good cause to use it in any way, especially directing it at someone else. Nice try Richard, I'm sure you'll take another swing soon. Tight lines Duff
    PS I quit coaching a ways back. I guess you missed that.
     
  3. Bonefish Jack

    Bonefish Jack Strictly FF

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    And Coach, I will address this to you ... take a look at the second post, from Gary, where he introduced the word "racist" ... I was simply responding to his comment that he did not want to appear racist ...

    Sorry, but you have to read the stuff before you go off ...
     
  4. Richard Olmstead

    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    I try to be respectful in all of my posts, even the one you took umbrage with. By contrast, inflammatory rhetoric seems to be your stock and trade on this site.
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  5. Bonefish Jack

    Bonefish Jack Strictly FF

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    And, I also did not like the use of the word "racist" ... which is why I said "ethnically biased" ... which I feel is really more accurate in this case
     
  6. Coach Duff

    Coach Duff Banned or Parked

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    I stand behind my backing of Gary, and I stand behind what I said. If either of you think even suggesting another poster has make ethnically biased or racist insinuations is okay, then I know both of you are full of shit. Simple as that. By the way "Bonefish" let's say the poachers are of Russian descent or Russian Nationals. Now how do we refer to them in the proper PC way? Teach me. I'm ready to learn the "right way".
     
  7. Bonefish Jack

    Bonefish Jack Strictly FF

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    Coach, how about just "poachers"?

    My question is, what does Russian have to do with it? If they were from Oregon, would you say "Oregonian" poachers? And, would that be relevant? I would suggest, it would be relevant only if you were ethnically biased ...

    Have you ever said anything like "Unhappy Americans on the Stilly"? I imagine not. Again, because it would not be relevant ... unless you were ethnically biased ...

    And my whole point was ... who cares where the poachers are from? I am just glad they were caught ...
     
  8. Jergens

    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

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  9. HauntedByWaters

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  10. Coach Duff

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    I hear you. I love your PC lean though.:rolleyes: It's the exact thing I try to avoid in my life. All it does is suppress true thoughts and feelings and lead to explosions down the line. If you are honest and tell the truth, I know where you stand and can confront you, attempt to educate you or walk away. In your bullshit world, I have no idea what anybody means, believes or stands for until something shitty happens. It's all whitewashed and hidden in PC drivel. But that is what PC is all about. Hiding from reality right? If the poachers were Russian, than Gary can call them Russian. I value your opinion but disagree with you "Bonefish". And I'd love to debate further, but I am walking out the door to go sightfishing for the biggest bonefish in the world, like I do every day. Tight lines "Bonefish" Duff
     
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    Uh oh!...I see another “brain rewiring” job in the works here – can hardly wait for this reality to actually occur! You know, that’s when all the “politically correct “do-gooders” and “know-besters” will be in charge of “re-wiring” the brains of the dissenters” – all for the greater good of course!

    Tolerance level exceeded! Puke time again….

    Good job, Gary & Coach!!:thumb:

    Jc
     
  12. Gary Thompson

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    Wow, this is why I joined the WFF out fit.
    PC or no PC
    We as law abiding fishers like to call a skunk a skunk when we see one and if I were a skunk I would be proud of my stink.
    I know my a bigit and racist, sexist, white male pig, flyfishing fool.
    I also would like to think I'll treat all asshole equally.

    OMJ, sorry you forgot what you were going to say. I'm sure you'll remember as soon as you turn off the computer.

    Sure would like to join Duff on his afternoon bone fishing exp. Tight lines to Duff and to all others also.
     
  13. HauntedByWaters

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    No matter what any of us thinks, Coach is still the lucky mofo bonefishing in paradise so lets just hate on him a little for that.
     
  14. D3Smartie

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    Thank you for calling it in!
     
  15. Be Jofus G

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    I'm not sure but I've never heard the Race card pulled on a statements like:
    "Hey Bob, check out the cans on that russian chick!"
    or
    "Someone tell that russian guy that we found his missing wallet and thermonuclear warhead"
    or
    "Russian Vodka Rocks!"

    Sounds like a double standard to me. Glad to hear the poachers got busted regardless of the size of their cans or tendency to misplace nuclear weapons.

    :rofl:
     
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