Up one line? Two?

SpeySpaz

still an authority on nothing
I'm surprised no one has brought up overhead casting with a DH rod; it seems like if maximum distance and not straining one's joints are issues, backcast room is restricted, etc.
that would be a useful alternative to consider.
Of course, when you start talking about head weights for overheading with a DH rod, you can really get into the weeds! Another 7 pages, hopefully with a lesser dose of conflict...:D
Bob
 

Porter

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I have experieced some lines with my TCR 691. SA Streamer Express 250 Intermediate is a good fit....for a floater the 6 weight SA SH Taper is a little to light. This rod based on the CS value (?) is actually rated about a 7.5 rod weight.
 

Porter

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You know this fast rod stuff is over stated because it seems everybody overloads their fast action rod with a higher weight line to get feel :confused: .... If you want feel why not fish with a slower action rod then? I'm guilty too. I have uplined my 6 TCR to get more feel. I think it might be due to the fact that some of these fast action rods are meant for long distance...all the time, and a lot of casters don't want to be flinging 60 plus feet of line on their hauls every single cast. Many of these fast rods perform very well when overlined....and seem less prone to the term "collapsing".....but as many would say why don't you just fish with the 8 weight then?


And Jeremy those 9'9" GL3's are very nice (casting) fly rods :) great choice (IMHO)
 

Jeremy Floyd

fly fishing my way through life
I was just giving you a hard time..

Yeah I really like the GL3's. They perform far and above their price tag, and better than many rods much much more expensive than them.

I overlined the TCR because (at the average cast of 60 feet) it loads and shoots with only one back cast for my style, and it speys a hell of a lot better, and the sweet spot timing is much more forgiving.
 
I was just giving you a hard time..

Yeah I really like the GL3's. They perform far and above their price tag, and better than many rods much much more expensive than them.

I overlined the TCR because (at the average cast of 60 feet) it loads and shoots with only one back cast for my style, and it speys a hell of a lot better, and the sweet spot timing is much more forgiving.
My GL3 is a 9 footer, 6 wt and the Outbound 6 wt I’ve been using this year doesn’t seem to get the distance the SA S Express gets me – course I’m old, new, dumb & clueless and have no idea what the hell I’m doing – just going with the talk on the forum ‘cuz I don’t know any better….sighhh!:confused:

The long 37.5 head on the OB seems “clumsy” to me and ends up biting the beach on the backcast or chalking up the “tailing loops” on the forward cast. Even though I know that tailing loops are caused by either too much or too early on the haul or power snap on the forward cast – it’s a very hard habit to break, dang-it! And biting the beach is a function of stopping the backcast higher, doh! :hmmm: The price you pay for lack of expert instruction in the beginning, I thimk….!:(:(

Anyhow, I like the GL3 and will continue experimenting with lines AND timing until I get it right, I reckon!:thumb:

JC:)
 
My GL3 is a 9 footer, 6 wt and the Outbound 6 wt I’ve been using this year doesn’t seem to get the distance the SA S Express gets me – course I’m old, new, dumb & clueless and have no idea what the hell I’m doing – just going with the talk on the forum ‘cuz I don’t know any better….sighhh!:confused:

The long 37.5 head on the OB seems “clumsy” to me and ends up biting the beach on the backcast or chalking up the “tailing loops” on the forward cast. Even though I know that tailing loops are caused by either too much or too early on the haul or power snap on the forward cast – it’s a very hard habit to break, dang-it! And biting the beach is a function of stopping the backcast higher, doh! :hmmm: The price you pay for lack of expert instruction in the beginning, I thimk….!:(:(

Anyhow, I like the GL3 and will continue experimenting with lines AND timing until I get it right, I reckon!:thumb:

JC:)
Which Streamer Express configuration and weight? Which tip Outbound?
 
Richard:

My OB 6 wt is intermediate tip - 37.5' head.

Streamer Express is 300 grain intermediate - says 8-9 wt on box - 30' head.

Thinkin' 300 gr. may be too much for the 6wt...??? The 250 gr. 7-8 wt could be better match, huh? :confused:

JC:)
 

Stonefish

Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater
On the demise.... it was a 4-pc. For some reason, that particular rod never stayed together in the middle ferrule. It always can loose. It snapped once and I had it repaired. Broke it again last year landing a nice silver, again at the middle ferrule. No high sticking involved. Loomis doesn't make a 4 pc GL3 6 wt any more, only a two piece. I opted for a Metolius Streamdance 4 pc 6 wt. Wish now I'd gotten the 2 pc GL3.

I always just fished my Airflo multi-tip with the type III head on that rod. Never really needed anything more. I caught well over a 100 silvers on that stick, but all good things must come to an end :)
 

Porter

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On the demise.... it was a 4-pc. For some reason, that particular rod never stayed together in the middle ferrule. It always can loose. It snapped once and I had it repaired. Broke it again last year landing a nice silver, again at the middle ferrule. No high sticking involved. Loomis doesn't make a 4 pc GL3 6 wt any more, only a two piece. I opted for a Metolius Streamdance 4 pc 6 wt. Wish now I'd gotten the 2 pc GL3.

I always just fished my Airflo multi-tip with the type III head on that rod. Never really needed anything more. I caught well over a 100 silvers on that stick, but all good things must come to an end :)
Yeah, wish they would still make that rod in four piece....I guess same could be said for the GLX classic.
 
On the demise.... it was a 4-pc. For some reason, that particular rod never stayed together in the middle ferrule. It always can loose. It snapped once and I had it repaired. Broke it again last year landing a nice silver, again at the middle ferrule. No high sticking involved. Loomis doesn't make a 4 pc GL3 6 wt any more, only a two piece. I opted for a Metolius Streamdance 4 pc 6 wt. Wish now I'd gotten the 2 pc GL3.

I always just fished my Airflo multi-tip with the type III head on that rod. Never really needed anything more. I caught well over a 100 silvers on that stick, but all good things must come to an end :)
For some reason, that particular rod never stayed together in the middle ferrule. It always can loose
Now isn't that odd? I've noticed in the short time I've had my GL3 6wt 4 piece that the first and second ferrules seem to work loose and Saturday at the Narrows it actually seperated at the second ferrule after about 2 hours of casting! :eek: :(

Having noticed this tendency to work loose on previous occasions I kinda got in the habit of checking ferrules and alignment throughout a day of fishing and had already checked & tightned the first ferrule about an hour earlier when to my complete amazement, I found myself tangled in line as I was making a forward cast that just didn't "feel" right, you know - the rod didn't "load" at the end of the backcast (?)!:confused:

First thing I did of course was look around to see if anybody saw another of my embarrassing Faux Pas :eek: and then began to extricate myself from the tangle of line still puzzling over the weird feeling of no load as I started my forward cast - then I saw the rod in two distinct pieces with the top half dangling from the line while the bottom half was still connected to my hand!!:eek:

I couldn't easily back out of the water due to all the line being tangled around me and my legs, arms etc. but finally managed to get it all back together, rechecked all the ferrules and fished for another hour or so with no further incidents. In the afternoon I switched to the 300 gr SA S Express line and thoroughly checked all the ferrules every 8-10 casts and only had to tighten the first ferrule after about 30 casts.

I don't know if this is endemic to the GL3, 4 peice series or not as I haven't read any other complaints on this problem. I will however be much more cautious/regular in checking ferrule connections!:beathead:

I don't have any of the multi-tip lines yet....but maybe in the future?

JC :)
 

riseform

Active Member
I used to think that was just a Scott rod thing (mine always came apart) until my Loomis started doing the same thing at the Sound. A little wax on the ferrules and the problem is solved. I still check the connections out of habit, but it remains secure with the wax.