NFR Voting by mail.

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  1. Skysoldier

    Skysoldier FUBAR

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    The first 20 years of my voting life was done by mail in ballot because I was on active duty, after retiring I voted once at a polling station and would rather do it this way.....I liked the feeling of dropping my ballot into one of the locked ballot boxes. That said I have no real issue with mail in and it gives me a chance to research my options before casting my vote.
     
  2. Evan Burck

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    I just noticed it's a "King County" link. Not sure if there's a place to check for the rest of the state.
     
  3. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    Every method of voting is susceptible to some type of fraud. The nice thing about paper ballots, is it keeps the incidents on a small scale. Electronic voting machines can (and do) cause much larger scale issues.
     
  4. Upton O

    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    I, too, love the postal ballot, in a few years we'll be doing it from home on our computers or over our smartphones. I always felt that going to a polling location tested folks' real motivation for stating their preferences in an election, that part I do miss.
     
  5. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Voting by mail is the U. S. government's attempt to save the U. S. Postal Service. Not a fan of mandating the practice. Not a fan of the two stamp price paid to help a struggling company. Not a fan.
     
  6. Flyborg

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    I drove 20 feet and put it in the ballot box. No stamps required.
     
  7. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    I was voting by mail years ago, I was a commercial fisherman and we always seem to be fishing on election day. I did like the ceremony of going to the polls and made sure I took my kids with me when I voted that way.

    Ed, the post office is not a company, it's a government service that paid for itself and then some until congress passed a law a few years ago, that requires them to pre-fund their retiree health & welfare 75 years out, within a 10 year span. They had to throw 5 billion into an already over funded system just this year. I don't think you could get a private company to pack a letter across the country for 45 cents.
    http://postalemployeenetwork.com/ne...nd-enhancement-act-of-2006-the-death-of-usps/
    Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but I had to say that.
     
  8. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Chris, not doubting you but:

    http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2006/snapshots/1496.html

    Publicly traded on the NYSE, has a CEO, has a business model and reports. Lipstick on a pig. Govt or not, it is run like a business...number 61 of the top 500 if the Internet source is remotely reliable.

    They don't deliver packages to my house. My route drivers are too lazy to walk down the driveway. UPS, FedEx and DHL all make the walk.
     
  9. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    Without getting into the broader argument about it or its role (or lack) in society, It should be clarified that the United States Postal Service is not a publicly traded company on the NYSE or any stock market.
     
  10. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Okay, not traded. Not sure I really care enough about that company...government agency...or whatever it is considered.
     
  11. Brady Burmeister

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    $.90....also the price to drive about 6.5 miles at $3.50 a gallon in a 25 mpg car. Please.....
     
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  12. Richard Olmstead

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    In my community, the ballot drop box is closer to our house than the nearest post office. I suspect that is true about as often as not, given how many drop boxes there are.

    As someone noted previously, a ballot, like a check or moneyorder, is too valuable to leave out in your mailbox for someone (anyone) to pick up, so we should all be delivering our ballots to a secure point, be it post office or ballot drop box. It's your choice whether to use the Postal Service as an intermediary or not. I realize that in some rural areas, this may not be much of a choice, if it is a long way to the nearest ballot drop box.

    My bigger concern is the long delay in tallying ballots, given that they can be cast as late as the end of the postal day on election day. I think we should go with the Oregon system, which says that ballots need to be in the hands of the election system by the end of election day, so results can be tallied earlier.

    D
     
  13. Gary Knowels

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    That's a good point Richard. Maybe if they had a "must be postmarked by" date of a few days prior to election day it would expedite the counting process. And if someone missed the postmark date, then that person could still vote in person.
     
  14. dryflylarry

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    Here's an interesting quote from Thom Hartmann's Blog page on November 5:


    And we're already seeing the effect of Republican efforts to restrict the vote. It was voting chaos in Florida over the weekend, as voters tried to cast their ballots early. Nightmarishly long lines at polling places forced voters to wait in line for as many as nine hours. At one polling place, more than 180 voters had their cars towed away while they were waiting to vote. This is all the result of Republicans in the state legislature deciding to cut down the number of early voting days this year from 14 down to 8.

    Republican Governor Rick Scott rejected calls to keep polling places open longer to accommodate for the influx of voters, but he refused saying that only a natural disaster would warrant extending voting hours. On Tuesday, more chaos is expected as fewer polling places will be open around the state than in 2008 - thanks to budget cuts. Similarly long line were reported in Ohio - where Republican Secretary of State John Husted also cut down on early voting hours.

    There are many ways to rig an election - cutting down on early voting is just one of them. Stay tuned.

    -Thom
     
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  15. Ed Call

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    Any chance the vehicles were towed because they were illegally parked?