Water Master Report

Discussion in 'Watercraft' started by Gregg Lundgren, May 13, 2010.

  1. Gregg Lundgren

    Gregg Lundgren Now fishing on weekdays too!

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    I took the new Water Master to Serene Lake today never having used a tube or kick boat before. The lake is less than two miles from our house, which is comforting when you don't yet have an established packing routine. Didn't get skunked on the maiden voyage, so we are off to a good start anyway.

    Pros:
    remembered everything
    boat set-up and performed well, the LVM and K-200 pumps are champs
    caught some fish, including a 12" rainbow that was a non-stop jumper (must have gone airborne 20 times)
    on the water from 8:30 until 2:30
    my legs don't ache, figured I might get leg cramps or something
    my back does not feel fatigued, the seating position works well for me
    seat and back shelf storage is high and dry for lake fishing, more so than I anticipated
    I did not take an additional seat pad, and so far one does not seem necessary

    Cons:
    finning was not as productive, propulsion-wise, as I expected (however I lack experience); into the breeze = oars

    Comical:
    me in fins, both going in and out, using the concrete block boat ramp

    This rookie is open to comments and questions. Always looking to learn something the easy way - thru advice, rather than taking on the school of hard knocks.
     
  2. Stewart

    Stewart Skunk Happens

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    Pardon me if I misunderstood... Put the fins on in the water, take them off before you get out. No walking in fins.:beer1:
     
  3. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Sounds awesome to me. You have an impression of propulsion, seat, storage, rowing and not trying to walk in your kick fins. On top of that you were into fish, close to home, not a bad day at the office, no?
     
  4. Brian Miller

    Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    So glad to hear you had a good time, & got the first fish hurdle done! Are you using the WM boot fins? My Force Fins propel me much better in lakes but I found the boot fins maneuver well enough in rivers (I had mine upgraded to felt with studs) for a lot of good hands-free drifting/fishing including ferrying out of the current for landing fish.
     
  5. Gregg Lundgren

    Gregg Lundgren Now fishing on weekdays too!

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    Told you I was a rookie! lol Actually it was only a dozen steps to the water. Perhaps not as bad as the picture I painted? Taking the fins on and off in the water does make more sense.:eek:
     
  6. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    With teathers so that if you drop a fin that does not float it does not sink to the bottom forever!
     
  7. Gregg Lundgren

    Gregg Lundgren Now fishing on weekdays too!

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    I am using the WM boot fins, and they float, so recovery is not an issue, at least not in a lake. Not sure if my finning technique is to blame, but the propulsion doesn't seem to be that effective. Seems like using more energy on the upward kick stroke helped some. Not sure if the angle of the legs entering the water made much difference, perhaps deeper was bettter. Changing direction required some experimentation, particularly in a cross wind. Sure would be open to some tips on any of the above!
     
  8. Brian Miller

    Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    Don't really know how the boot fins work in stillwater; I've always used Force Fins with the WFF loaner and my Kodiak. The WM fin does have the same V design that Force claims "channels the water by having it flow off the ends and not the sides of the blade, putting more energy into forward propulsion", but the (WM) boot fin surface is also shorter and not as flexible. At any rate my Force Fins do propel me faster on stillwater but I'm not going to wear them in a river. The WM fins are fairly effective for maneuvering in current though. I'm no expert but discovered some things that seemed to work during the week I used the WFF loaner Kodiak on rivers and lakes. Dave Inks has some tips on How To Fish in a Kickboat you might find useful at his Water Strider site.

    So when are we going fishing?
     
  9. Blue

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    First off, great report! Secondly...WALK BACKWARDS. A hard habit to get into, but much easier then trying to put on and take off IN the water.
    Nice things about the Force Fins. I can walk forward AND up hill to boot.
    I agree they are the Fin of all fins. I do wear the regular flat bottom, two straps across the top Tube Fins on my Pontoon as I stand on the platform allot and the nubbies on the bottom of the FF mixed with wet diamond plate aluminum gets a tad slippery.
    I do plan on putting a skid strip on my deck though.
    In a pontoon with oars, I can get by with a lesser fin, don't you all agree?
     
  10. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    As a suggestion, it's easier to put your fins on in the shallows at water's edge (ie. no more than 2-3 inches deep) than in deeper water. It's also easier if you have your WM or float tube ready to launch with rods strung up so that once your fins are on, all you need to do is walk the boat backwards into the water until its deep enough to sit down and start kicking. Just reverse the process when pulling out. Yes, walking backwards while wearing fins is much easier and safer, but it's even better not to have to walk at all if you can possibly avoid it. A little pre-planning can help eliminate an embarrassing or painful fall or an unintended swim.

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    And KENT, you know this how?....LOL

    Somethings just have to come from experiencing them ;-)
     
  12. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    How do I know? From firsthand personal experience of course!

    About ten years ago I was following a friend as we were pulling out after a day on a lake. As my fins found the bottom, I stood up and tried to walk forward when one fin caught on the other and I ended up going right over the front of my old round float tube (they weren't called the 'Donuts of Death' for nothing!) and doing a face plant in about 2 feet of water. I didn't go completely under but might as well have considering how wet I was. I thought my friend was gonna piss himself he was laughing so hard! Good thing he didn't have a video camera or it would've made YouTube for sure!

    It only takes one experience like that to make a believer out of you.



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  13. Gregg Lundgren

    Gregg Lundgren Now fishing on weekdays too!

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    Well, by putting my ignorance on display, and receiving great advice by forum members... I intend to avoid that experience! I understand how that could happen Kent.

    One issue that made walking backwards counter-intuitive was the fact the boat launch was the only access to the water. It is comprised of those 10" wide concrete slabs connected by re-bar with about an equal space in between. Makes you want to see where you are stepping.

    Great advice! I will use it. Makes total sense. I did have my rod all strung-up though.:thumb: btw... the rod holder that comes with the WM package was a light weight, very simple design. Still it was quite effective, and didn't slip at all using the single strap around the tube.
     
  14. sportsman

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    Hi Gregg! Great to hear that the " Double Skunk" is gone": you got it wet and slimy! Now it's time to turn it from a floating platform into a fishing machine. Remember that it's supposed to be fun and not a job. How you make that transition is up to you and how your going to be using the raft. You got a lot of great advice from different members on what they did....and some from me. You have around 12 D-rings on the raft....time to put them to use! Fred Meyer sells those 'carbiniers'[single snaps] for $2.00, buy 6 to begin with and now you can secure your fins, fish net, dry bags or whatever you need to float your boat! Sending you a PM for a nice little spot just north of both of us, let's hook up midweek, we'll have it to ourselves[ bring all you new WM buddies!!] I'll bring my Force Fins for you to try out to see if you like them. Fred.
     
  15. Brian Miller

    Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    I'm with Kent. And sitting down in the boat makes it easier to bend over to get them on. My original (read the first) Force Fins are not the new adjustables and fit is snug so I really appreciate that. Also concrete boat ramps get REAL slimy when the water heats up so I avoid them and would rather use some sort of bank access. Walking in water is best done backwards, and if you are in the boat, you have handrails and a seat should you slip.

    My Outcast boot fins (without felt & studs) have some nice sewn on tethers with quick side release buckles that I'm going to move over to the WM fins.

    Propulsion is mainly limited to kicking up, as in doing leg extensions (really works the quads if you're motivatin') but I have noticed I can offset a slight breeze in frog water that would otherwise push me backwards by "walking" as if on my tiptoes. I'm sure you noticed that using "english" on your kicks will help your turns.