WDFW nabs fish poachers

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  1. Kelly Michelsen

    Kelly Michelsen Active Member

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  2. I used to camp there all the time as a kid when I first started fly fishing with my dad. loved that lake. I remember one year I limited out in 20 minutes trolling a mint wooley bugger
     
  3. Greg Armstrong

    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    2 scumbags with 72 trout.
    Glad the WDFW guys got them.
     
  4. Broderick Smith

    Broderick Smith SeaToTree

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    They need to increase the penalties
     
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  5. Greg Armstrong

    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    Agreed !!!
     
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    Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    A number of years ago, on another site, I suggested a $1,000 fine and really got jumped on. They need too set the fines so that they do hurt and discourage over limits just like this situation. Word will get out very quickly in the poaching community. Gear confiscation should also be part of the program.

    Makes ya wonder how many fish they have really taken out of that, and other, lakes. Bet this wasn't the first time.

    MB
     
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    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    As detective Tony Baretta used to say: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." For those old enough to remember the Baretta show:



    Glad the gamies caught these crooks! :)
     
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    DennisE Topwater and tying.

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    Start out with a one cent fine for 1 over. 2 over? 2 cents. 3 over? 4 cents. Continue along these lines and 20 over would be $5242.88. Of course you'd have to add a base fine, otherwise 10 fish over would only be $5.12. You'd also have to cap it somewhere because you'd go over 1 million by the time you hit 28 over. Doesn't do any good to have a fine that would way exceed these peoples net worth! ;)

    Of course, if Warren Buffett or Bill Gates were into overfishing, hmm... ;)
     
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    I was thinking more along the lines of either a $1000 for each one over, or maybe a three pronged hook in the jaw and a dozen laps around the lake in a 557-hp outboard. 72?!! bastards...
     
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    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    More evidence of the growing population of ASSJACKS. Like the group on Lenore, I'm glad they were caught and word is out but, the fact is a bunch of fish are dead and for every incident that gets caught, I'll bet 10:1+ do not. Absolutely no knock on our WDFW; they are doing an awesome job given the scope of the assignment.

    IMO unless stiff penalties (some significant jail time) accompany these acts, the population of those doing these acts will grow... very little downside to losing what is most likely stolen gear and fishing privileges... as if that means anything to a poacher.
     
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    I know how we lean on this board, and I'm also in the camp of some form of increased penalty but I also feel it is important to be an informed consumer of information. Our justice system supports two very important ideas that exist for a reason; innocent until proven guilty and avoidance of cruel and unusual punishment. I feel that in this case we don't have all the information about the "poachers". 72 trout in one day is a great catch rate for two guys on a bank, so much so that I question wether they were all caught that day on that lake. Is it possible that what we are dealing with here is not an over limit catch on that day, but instead an over harvest of a possession limit? Not likely I know and the odds are good that they were keeping fish over their limit but I'd love more information before I pass judgement on these guys.
     
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    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    Irafly,

    You make some good points. I do respect your opinion.
    I still have a pretty clear opinion though of 2 guys with 72 dead trout being issued citations by WDFW.

    The legal possession limit was no more than 15 trout - in 1959, according to the official Washington State "Game Fish Seasons and Catch Limits" pamphlet I have. And that was 54 years ago according to my math.

    My opinion on these 2 guys has not changed.

    Here is a link to a whole slew of more citations routinely issued by WDFW;
    http://wdfwenforcement.blogspot.com/
     
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    Agree. Throw the book at them or it won't stop...
     
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    That doesn't sound too out of line for hatchery trout. It didn't happen all the time, but I certainly had days in my youth where I pulled more than half that on my own in single days on the local stocking lake. Of course we didn't keep them...stockers taste like crap.

    Regardless, I prefer to err on the side of judgemental. Burn them all. Although I'd much rather see these types of stories about salmon/steelhead poachers.