Well, I too, am ashamed

Discussion in 'Warm Water Species' started by Olive bugger, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. Olive bugger

    Olive bugger Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2009
    Messages:
    3,048
    Likes Received:
    625
    Location:
    Woodinville, WA
    But I have never sought the company of panfish while fishing with a fly rod. I think bluegill and
    crappie are great companions, but I just never have thought to chase them. So, I have been
    thinking of taking up the cause. So, I have come, hat in hand, to ask for suggestions on fly types.
    line/leader combinations, and anything else that you might think would help an old beginner.

    I have a 2 wt that I would like to try, I think maybe some yellow and perhaps cricket type flies.
    Where am I wrong?
     
  2. Brad Niemeyer

    Brad Niemeyer Old School Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2004
    Messages:
    691
    Likes Received:
    64
    Location:
    Woodinville, WA
    Home Page:
    No judgement, no shame.

    Think small nymphs. Size 14-16 hare's ear, prince or soft hackle of any type work best. Around here topwater action is not easy to find. You can find willing bluegill and pumpkinseeds looking up but it's
    not all that often. Dry flies work fine if you can find a school near the surface with interest on a sunny day. Use a 3x-4x leader and a floating line. Find the schools of fish first. Spawners will be found near shore in dinner plate sized redds of sand and pebbles. Males will attack anything that comes near the redd. With warm water panfish its generally not a big deal to target spawners as long as you release them. Look for weed lines, the edge of lily pads, and submerged tree branches. Crappie are really fun if you can locate them. Of course you will certainly run into some bass when you try for bluegill, so be ready for a big surprise wrestling match.

    As a kid, I learned to fly fish on panfish ponds in Connecticut. I've probably caught and released 5,000 panfish. Now I go with my son and we have a ball with his 7' 4 weight fiberglass fly rod.

    Go get em!
     
  3. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

    Joined:
    May 6, 2008
    Messages:
    3,777
    Likes Received:
    1,357
    Location:
    Moses Lake, WA
    One thing I always liked was cheap poppers that would twist up the line when casting. The line untwists when the popper is on the water and the flopping is irresistible to fish
     
  4. Brad Niemeyer

    Brad Niemeyer Old School Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2004
    Messages:
    691
    Likes Received:
    64
    Location:
    Woodinville, WA
    Home Page:
    I never had good results with poppers (for panfish). Poppers are fun but, 8 out of 10 hits result in no hook up ( for me). Really small (#14) foam spiders do better, but unweighted nymphs will bring in more and larger panfish....
     
  5. Olive bugger

    Olive bugger Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2009
    Messages:
    3,048
    Likes Received:
    625
    Location:
    Woodinville, WA
    Great pics, Brad. I like the outfit on the youngster. Got him started correctly.

    I am thinking that maybe I would try some small spider types on a floating line with a
    weighted fly or leader. I have caught a lot of blue gill on crickets using live bait but that
    was with a spinning rod and not a fly rod. I hope I didn't offend with the word spinning.
    I sin on occasion. The blue gill would take the cricket as soon as it hit the water. Maybe
    some dark surface patterns also.
     
  6. Seapig

    Seapig Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2009
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    27
    Location:
    King County, WA
    I've always had good luck with your namesake- the olive bugger. This past summer I was bass fishing over in the Fall City area with some Lefty's Deceivers I'd tied up. They were about 4" long. I had bluegill slamming them.
     
  7. Olive bugger

    Olive bugger Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2009
    Messages:
    3,048
    Likes Received:
    625
    Location:
    Woodinville, WA
    Yes, I find the Olive and black bugger to be good most places. I suppose I should get busy and
    fill a fly box with some patterns for the summer months. After all, May is only five months away.
     
  8. speyfisher

    speyfisher Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    1,175
    Likes Received:
    214
    Location:
    State of Jefferson U.S.A.
    Almost anything will work,,,it;s all in the presentation. Having said that, Small anything would be at the top of my list. Poppers are the most difficult, plenty of hits, but you gotta be quick on the hook set.
     
  9. Kevin J. Burnham

    Kevin J. Burnham Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    2,164
    Likes Received:
    194
    Location:
    Auburn,Wa.
    I use soft hackles and for poppers I use ear plugs. Put legs on them and cast away !!
     
  10. sroffe

    sroffe Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2007
    Messages:
    520
    Likes Received:
    47
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    With or without the ear wax?
     
  11. jessejames

    jessejames Flyslinger

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    1,918
    Likes Received:
    393
    Location:
    Show Low, Arizona
    Sam I think that would be using scented lure or bait. Not allowed.

     
  12. sroffe

    sroffe Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2007
    Messages:
    520
    Likes Received:
    47
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Well, that depends...:)

    Should I clarify my question? "Used or unused?"

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    Sam
     
  13. TB

    TB Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2009
    Messages:
    207
    Likes Received:
    19
    Location:
    Ma's cow, Idaho area
    Ear plugs absorb water pretty easily so I would assume with the ear wax to polong use till drying is necessary.


    If you've found a brand that dosen't absorb water easily, I would like to know since I use hearing protection in my job regularly.
     
  14. Steve Kokita

    Steve Kokita FISHON206

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    830
    Likes Received:
    317
    Location:
    Burien, Washington
    Damsel nymphs sight casting with a two weight is a blast for panfish! Most of the I-5 corridor (Fed Way) lakes all have panfish. Last year had a huge bass on for at least .00005 seconds!
     
  15. McNasty

    McNasty Canyon Lurker

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    711
    Location:
    Somewhere Near Selah, WA
    i fish many ponds around yakima for big panfish and for bluegill one of my favorites is a small white foam beetle