wenatchee opening?

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  1. Freestone

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    Thanks for that clarification BDD. Seems like the dam counts are way off. Where do you find the index site sampling numbers? Are they available on-line? One other thing maybe you can clarify: the 1395 permit says they're supposed to use the Priest Rapids count for natural-origin UCR fish, yet Priest Rapids only reports total steelhead...so what is really used? Are the index site sampling numbers applied to the total count at PR?
     
  2. Will Atlas

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    hmm, somehow I was under the impression John Day was the last before the Snake. Shows how much I know. Either way, almost 100,000 unclipped fish have passed Bonneville this year making a season on the Upper Columbia Tribs highly likely.
     
  3. BDD

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    FS,

    Yeah, you are correct; they don't differentiate wild steelhead at Priest Rapids for the FPC counts but the hatchery/wild ratio I presented earlier in this post is from a Priest Rapids sub-sample. As you mentioned, they use a Priest Rapids sub-sample for UCR escapement as it is the first dam above the Columbia/Snake confluence. I don't believe they are posted on-line anywhere. I could give you several reasons for inaccurate dam counts but that is a different subject altogether.
     
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    McNary is the dam before the snake. I believe the area before the Snake is the McNary wildlife refuge. McNary is close to Umatilla and the John Day is closer to the Dalles
     
  5. Alex MacDonald

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    Looks like I may actually get the chance to use the new Spey rod in my home waters!
     
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    With The Methow Closure, what do you think now?
     
  8. Will Atlas

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    I think it is still likely. Not that there is ever much rhyme or reason to the whole process
     
  9. Panhandle

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    They will both open. The Methow is closed because of illegal fishing for steelhead. It's a numbers game and the numbers are there.
     
  10. Nooksack Mac

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    While we're waiting: try to get your hands on a wonderful but out-of-print paperback, "Steelhead and the Floating Line: A Meditation" by Bob Arnold (1995, Frank Amato Publications, Inc.). Along with its other delights, it describes many of the best places to fish for steelhead along the Wenatchee; even shows them in good color photos.:ray1:
     
  11. Gary Thompson

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    Wow a book with X marks the spot!!!!
    I have lived here in Wenatchee for 20 years and I have caught some of the brightest (hatchery) steel head in the late summer (before the closure) in the upper river above Tumwater cyn.
    There are reasons for the late opener, in Oct. to get the wild fish to the spawning grounds.
    I was true to my sport and only fly fished last winter, the only fish I caught was "whitie" and they were foul hooked.
    It sure is nice to be able to fish the home waters even if I don't catch any steel.
     
  12. Jack Murphy

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    The only thing I caught last year in the Wenatchee was a slight case of frostbite from fishing in 17 degree weather for 4 hours with no gloves.

    What an idiot.
     
  13. BDD

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    Gary,

    Not to completely disagree with you but I'm not sure your comment about the late opener is correct. Summer fish are known to be great wanderers. I would bet that a lot of the "wild" fish that come in early above the Tumwater canyon head down river to overwinter in the lower Wenatchee or even the Columbia. Haven't seen any data to support that claim...just more of a hunch.

    I believe the late opener is more to ensure that adequate numbers of fish have "escaped" and that hatchery fish are in sufficent numbers to allow a harvest fishery.
     
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    Mac,

    And I had the good fortune to fish the Wenatchee with my very good friend Bob many times before the 1997 closure. In fact, Bob and I fished it the weekend before it was closed in September 1997. So I not only got to see the pictures and drawings in the book and read Bob's accounts of fishing the river, I actually fished them with him. I also have the book; but my copy is not for sale anytime since Bob gave it to me as a gift when it was published and inscribed it with a personal note from one friend to another.

    And as a bonus, this book of Bob's is full of great info on fishing for summer steelhead with a floating line. Heck, he even mentioned in it that he has gotten over his previous disdain for 2-handed rods and was actually fishing one (a Sage 7146 brownie) on the Wenatchee.
     
  15. Alex MacDonald

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    The book's available from Amazon for about 16 bucks. Just ordered my copy! Doesen't say anything about being out of print, so maybe it's been reprinted. For a neophyte like myself, anything would help!