Discussion in 'Camping, Hiking, Cooking' started by Dustin Bise, May 3, 2009.
no worries i can tteach u how to build a fire without matches, but u gotta do the grunt work!
Pretty unlikely we'd go anywhere where fires are allowed unless the Chelan Sawtooths seem interesting. Long drive, but very few rules.
bawling: no roasting marshmallows!
No, boys, let's talk about this. If fires are super-important, we may need to find a place where they are allowed. For the Wilderness areas, it's below 4K on the west slope and 5K on the east, so there's that, or somewhere not protected, like the Chelan/Sawtooth area. Long drive, but very nice place. It might make sense to do a three dayer to allow for the extra drive time. Tell me what's most important to you in terms of the trip, and I'll come up with something good. A bonus to the Chelan Sawtooths is that area grows fish pretty well, pretty consistently. Without disclosing further details, I do have access to some stocking information in the high lakes that can be useful. If you are looking for top secret info on a super productive zipperlip lake, look elsewhere, but I can help pick a good spot.
One thing I'd expect is we would have to be a small group, say 8-10 regardless of the regs. Less impact in the high country is better for all. If this thing gets some momentum, it's perfectly easy to do two trips, either two different weekends, or two different destinations.
If'n it was me, I'd skip the fires and start picking Allison's brain. She may have ideas for some fair spots to fish.
i agree we should cap it at 10 people or so esp if we decide on a wilderness location. I would say the criteria should include.
a lake that has fish for at least 1 camp.
stream in some area of the hike.
stay in washington (since its WFF)
no 8000+ foot elevation days
somewhere that we could have a group fire at night would be great for the social aspects.
Fire, no fire, either way. I'd just hope for a good hike and worthy destination for the experience.
:iagree: fires arn't that important, theres plenty of time for socializing
I'd be interested in going. There are so many possibilities. How about the Goat Rocks. I've never done it but this hike up to Surprise lake offers fishing at the lake and also offers up the East Fork of the Tieton River. For people that wanted to head on up to Conrad Basin, that could be done as well. I have gone in another way to Snow Grass Flats and Old Snowy, and the area is really quite spectacular.
"that hike" looks nice, i would be interested in going up to conrad basin
any ideas sound good to me as long as we're catchin fish and havin a fun time!
Lots and lots of possibilities. The Chelan area sounds cool and I've never hiked there. Might be pretty hot in August. Lots of possibilities in the Olympics as well but not as centrally located for people on the east side. The Olympics can be a good place to escape the heat of August. Let's here more ideas.....................
If high lake fishing is the objective, that should supercede having a campfire. Even in areas where campfires are allowed, they probably shouldn't be. I've been in the Chelan Sawtooths once; it was very hot.
I'm in the process of converting to light or ultra-light backpacking, so I'd be interested in hiking with people that combine hiking light with fly fishing, since the fishing always adds weight and bulk to the pack. And I haven't had my Curtis raft wet in 3 or 4 seasons. That seems criminal.
I've spent the last few years updating all my backpacking gear to light/ultralight. I'd say I'm somewhere in the middle between the two. I don't regret it at all. It's really made the hiking aspect of it so much more enjoyable and the camping aspect of my trips hasn't suffered at all.
i normally do NOT have fires so its fine with me to pick a fire free location. I will give this 1 week more for brainstorming, then ill hold a vote to decide the final location. that way we can get on with further planning and people can offically mark there calenders.