What is a good PNW winter steelhead rod??

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by sandspanker, May 29, 2011.

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  1. 7wt

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  2. 8wt

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  3. 9wt

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  4. other

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  1. KerryS

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    Dumb statement. Not all fish are created equal. I have had 12 to 14 pound fish push an 8 weight rod to its limits and landed a 20+ pound fish with the same rod without much problem.
     
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    True... some steelhead are logs that just roll over and give up, thanks for your incite.

     
  3. Cali

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    I'm in total agreement with KerryS on this one. Sage's 8124-3 is hands down the finest of the winter water, "skagit style" rods out there.
     
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    He was fishing an Echo, though ;)
     
  5. KerryS

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    The 8124 set the early standard for 2 handed rods for winter steelheading with Skagit lines. I am sure there are many others rods made that are equal to the 8124. Likely a matter of taste of the individual. I have a newer Sage 8129 that is a fantastic "Skagit" rod. The point I wanted to make is a medium to fast action rod around 12' to 13' long seems to be the best tool for Skagit style lines, heavy tips and large flies. 7 or 8 seems to be the prefered weight but I would fish a 9 for winter steelhead also.
     
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    The reason for this poll was to think if I was thinking that a wt would be strong enough for winter steelheading. I think for perfect condictions it will be. Not high fast water, mid sized rivers, I was thinking of selling my echo 8wt but I think I may keep it for those other times. fishing a really deep pool, a larger river, Large chicken for a fly. etc... But thanks for everones imput on this subject.
     
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    I think if the person is smart about fighting the fish you can use lighter rods. I know that Gary Loomis caught a summer steelhead on the EF lewis many years ago with a 4wt single handed rod. He went swimming two times before he landed it but he did land it.
     
  8. Derek Day

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    I don't like skagit heads that much. I fished a 15' 10wt all winter, with a windcutter 10/11. I like being able to get the fish in when they're still relativley green. The 10wt allows me to put as much pressure as I want on them. I broke off a number of fish running 17 lb floro while putting some serious wood to them.
     
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    Didn't Loomis make a two handed GLX?........
     
  10. Big Tuna

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    I don't think the question can be answered by line weight. Some rods are built to throw Skagits and heavy junk, others are not as well suited. A better question IMHO is which makes/models of rods make the best winter rods. Personally, I like my Meiser MKS 13'6" 7/8 rod. Throws big stuff and can handle large fish.
     
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    Some fish are just more stubborn. Have caught plenty of mid to upper teens fish that a 2wt trout rod would have been overkill. Most solid 7/8 wt two handers in the 12'-13' class are more than enough for all but the few exceptional fish.

    Have also caught more than a few on 4 and 5 wt single handers. Not sure why anybody would have to swim the EFL to chase a fish, outside of a good story. It wasn't the rod it was the fish that went crazy. Steelhead roped up with normal leader are no different to land on a trout rod. Some come in like on a leash. Others require some playing. Most burn themselves out and the game is over quite fast, reguardless of the rod. Same applies to two handers as well.

    As for 'big guns' 'not needed' that is a typical load of bull. 7wt two handers certainly aren't needed either. It is personal choice of how you want/like to fish and not much else. If you want to be Lee Wulff you don't even have to have a fly rod to catch big fish. Just learn to cast with your arm and play them off a hand held reel. That is all that is 'needed'. The rest are wants or likes.

    If you don't want to use an 8wt two hander then don't. If you think an 8 wt two hander is right, it is. Landing a big fish on a 7wt doesn't mean crap in proving a point. For the next one may be a handful on an 11wt, but probably not.

    Derek,

    I fish 15' 9-11's for the majority of my angling, on bigger water. I agree that once you use such rods you learn how little pressure you really can apply with a 13' 7wt. The pressure needed to move that oddball, sulking stubborn fish. Otherwise the vast majority of steelhead aren't being brought in any faster, or slower as they give up. I prefer the fishing and casting qualities of the bigger rods and spey lines to match. But that is my damage and I fully understand why they don't have much appeal on a broader steelhead spectrum. Choices are good and glad to hear you are enjoying the long rod!

    William
     
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    William,
    One of the things that I appreciate about your posts is that you cut to the chase.

    Jon
     
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    Your right William, The 7wts are not needed, but your whale sized 15' 11 wts are. :) It's all personal preference. If there were 20' 15wts, we could use them as well. What ever trips your trigger.
     
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    William has a two handed whale spey rod? That's rediculous!!
     
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