Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by Peter Pancho, Sep 2, 2008.
what salt water boat to get for less than 5,000? Primarily for the slow sound and hood canal.
how do you want to use it, do you have a tow vehicle, what size are you thinking, how many people, do you want to be sheltered? .... Sorry for the grammer this is from my wireless.
Find a used Whaler that needs some TLC and baby her up. Wet ride, but she'll float for ever and can handle most Puget Sound Ops. Anything in great shape, newer model or higher end (Grady White, hell most Whalers) will cost a lot more. I'm sure other members have a better idea, but that's what came to mind. Hell my new flats boat has a sticker of over 40 grand. Boats are money pits, we all know that. Good luck and tight lines! Duff
How about mine? I haven't advertised it yet but it's a 14’ Livingston with 30 HP Oil injected Yamaha & 4 HP 4-stroke Yamaha kicker and Galvanized trailer. A very safe stable fishing boat without the higher cost and wetter ride of a much older Boston Whaler. Easy to tow without a truck and piece of cake to launch. This boat is turnkey and ready to fish. Engine always flushed and boat and trailer washed down after each trip out and it shows. Kicker only occasionally used, 30HP Yamaha has 160 hours and is a fuel efficient reliable 2-stroke oil injected engine. The Coho are coming any day now! You won’t find a better value in a boat for its size, safety and reliability. Serious inquires only. $4,600 or $3,950 without 4hp Yamaha Kicker. PM me if you want more details and photos. Many extras included.
Smokercraft Alaskan 14 or 15', with the open floorboard, with 25 hp four stroke (if possible) outboard. You can get them with two strokes, which work great (I have one).
It's easy to tow, inexpensive to own (tabs, aluminum needs no maintenance, trailer tabs cheap, etc.), easy to operate even with just one person, fishes two people well, etc.
From time to time you find a Smokercraft Lodge 15, which I would prefer (a little heavier and is wider) for just over $5k, but they often have a 25 hp, which is on the light side for that boat. That would be my recommendation if you could find one within your budget.
There are other boats/models out there I would like to have (Fisher, Crestliner, other Smokercraft models like the Osprey or Tracer, Tracker, G3, or Lund), but they are more than the budget you noted. The Smokercraft is juuuust fine. :thumb: My fishing pal Steve has a standing offer that if I ever sell mine, he's first in line.
I know Duroboats are popular around here, and they are a good boat, but they usually don't have the flooring configuration (flat floor, split seats) in the smaller size that I want.
The boat is important, but pay particular attention to the outboard. Bummer to be out on the water and have it crap out on you . . . and it's the most expensive part of the boat to repair or replace if it gives up. Caveat emptor.
If I had five grand, my kids and I would be decked out in Kayaks.
Now is the perfect time to buy a boat. The industry is at an all time low. Inventories are at an all time high and dealerships are going under. If you look around, you might be really suprised to find how much 5,000 dollars can buy. Just beware....if you buy a boat from certain manufacturers, the boat can't be warrantied if that company is no longer in business.
This is kind of funny because I asked exactly the same question a year ago. Even had the same budget. And Nutty Squirrel even offered his Livingston which I'm sure is a good boat.(I think he just maybe is attached to it and hasn't really tried too hard to sell it)
I totally blew my 5 K budget and went with this Smokercraft I fouind on Craigs list. No regrets.
As was advised the outboard is key.
I had a deep 12' Lund once that was a great Puget Sound boat. The ex sold it when I wasn't looking.
I do like aluminum because they are light and easy to tow. A fiberglass boat will give you a more comfortable ride in the chop I think.
Sorry duplicate post
Michael has it right I have not even half heartedly tried to sell the boat. I really don't want too since it's the perfect size to trailer and easily launch but it's getting way to small for my growing family. I keep saying to myself I will sell this season and it never seems to happen primarily since my dream is to have a 18' Whaler Outrage or Grady but don't have $15K laying around for a twenty year old boat.
I agree with everything posted so far. My first boat was a 12' Smokercraft Alaskan and it went anywhere I needed on a nice day(Not windy) (I fish all over MA10). Lund's are good, Duroboats I really like too. Some people hate the cat style of a Livingston or Sorenson but they are quieter more comfortable and way more stable than a traditional small 12-14 V-hull for standing and casting.
My only other advice is don't buy anything too big. I think the bigger the boat the less you are inclined to take it out for a few hours before/after work. I can go anywhere in the sound that a 20-30' boat can go for a fraction of the cost and way less hassle. I have very little maintance to do other than wash everything down and flush the engine each outing. Good luck in your search.
i'd be looking for a welded aluminum 16-17' with a 4 stroke of some kind, on a trailer. if you doubled your budget, you could find a swell boat that would do the job. gregor, as a brand, comes to mind. if you keep the horsepower down, these boats don't weigh very much and can be man handled on most any ramp, no matter how bad the pitch. going into fiberglass, you will add a huge amount of additional weight and limit your access simply because you will have to search out better launch sites.
My suggestion is to NOT buy until later in the year unless you find a deal or just what you are looking for. Salmon season brings out the guys just trying to make a buck - unlike Nutty Squirrel of course.
Some things I strongly considered, other than the obvious
- Outboard is KEY! If it goes TU after you buy it, good luck affording a new one
- 4-stroke can troll and expand your range w/o mixing fuel
- Next best is oil injected yamaha!
- buy something w/ good resale value in case you want something different. This means stay with name brands people know and Outboards people like.
- When you buy, talk the seller into caughing up as many extras as you can see laying around in their garage! Even oars cost too much - price this stuff at West Marine, as you likely already know!
- Take your time and enjoy shopping and perfect your boat whoring skills during this years salmon season!
I ended up with an 18' welded aluminum Weldcraft that I really like. Of course it was more than I planned to spend, but I am taking the family to Port Townsend this weekend for the wood boat festival and I have no worries with the crossing and who knows, may fish my way across!
Even though I have my boat I still cruise craigs list. I like looking at the Portland ads too.
You see more aluminum boats I think in your price range.
This could be a decent deal.
For fly fishing on puget sound: 13' boston whaler. Great casting platform for two people, indestructable, low fuel consumption. They can be a bit wet and uncomfortable in rough weather, but when are you ever out fly fishing in that weather anyway?
I agree with JeffD on outboards - they can run forever with the right maintenance, but you can end up spending alot of cash if yours dies. Yamahas rock if you can find them. Four stroke is even better.
I have a 14' Livingston (1977) with an Evinrude 35hp (1986). It takes oil gas mix which is inconvenient, but sips gas. I really don't use it much since I have no friends and two very young kids, but this year we used it several more times than the past two or three years. I recently added a casting platform that spans the entire front area. Old as hell, but runs well and will float even if filled with water. I have friends who have whalers and love them. I bought what my limited budget would allow many years ago and I'm pleased with that choice so far. Good luck.