Thanks. I need to track some of the puppies down. I think they may be the ticket for building "flies" the bass guy can use. He's hoping that one of my creations might make the difference someday in his tournament endeavors. ...it's for sure no one else would be using anything like the lures I've been making. The fact that the jigs sink to the bottom as they do would make them especially effective on the Umpqua River for the smallmouth. We basically tied flies that were very heavy at the front to sink straight down to the bass. The use of the jig hook would certainly work better than what we were trying. ... basically, lead eyes.