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Discussion in 'Watercraft' started by ignoranceisbliss?, Feb 18, 2012.

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  1. PT

    PT Physhicist

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    So, my response wasn't about your reading of the forum rules. It was about the above. Which seemed to be the premise of your.... very informative and helpful post.
     
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    If you have such a dislike for this forum and the people on it, why are you here? Seems like this thread is personal.
     
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    indyjones Banned or Parked

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    that's cool. i can tell reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. not everyone gets to ride the long bus with all the cool kids to school. i get it.
     
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    i'll break it down to smaller chunks for those with the bibs around their necks.
     
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    ignoranceisbliss? Banned or Parked

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    Thanks for your response Chris. Having never seen the deleted threads, I was unaware they were of an "attacking" nature. I have contacted the former member and let him know you are still awaiting a response from him, although I get the feeling he no longer wants anything to do with your forum. I agree that retailers and manufacturers should not be allowed to try to sell their products on posts in forums such as yours, nor should they attempt to affect the sales of others through anonymous bashing of their products. But again, I will pose the same question that I asked Jerry:
    "again, just trying to get to the bottom of this. when you say "secretly promoting directly or indirectly for a non sponsor" what does that mean? would that be PMing people and trying to sell them boats? Or would saying "I like aire boats, you should get one" be considered promoting for a non sponsor? And in bringing up spammers, are you saying that those are the types of actions and activities that get people banned?"

    it seems like there is a massive amount of leeway in this. I am just wondering where the line is/was crossed
     
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    Well I hope Ignorance is no longer ignorant about how this forum operates. Chris lets folks discuss anything fly fishing related, and a few not so related, and informed opinions pro and con are welcome. Debates to the point of heated permeate this forum. You might say we value diversity. I have no issues with Scadden boats, but I happen to drive a Watermaster.

    Sg
     
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    Ignorance,

    Secretly promoting or dissing would be like if I bashed Scadden boats routinely on the forum while hiding the fact that I sell Watermasters.

    BTW, I don't sell any boats; just using that as an example.

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  8. Jerry Daschofsky

    Jerry Daschofsky Moderator Staff Member

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    Igno, some of us have worked in the industry, and prostaffed for companies. You keep wanting an answer to a question that isn't that "black and white". This is a privately owned forum, though sponsors do pay to advertise. It's solely owned by one man, and he lets us all come on here for free to post. It's like a police officer who can sum up someone who is going to commit a crime. You get a spidey sense that leads you to watch. Is it always right? No. But it's usually pretty damned close. We do have some tools in place that let us know who is here under an AKA. I don't do the tracking, I just help with enforcement. From your own account about a banned user from this board messaging you out of the blue on another board about his thread and this forum and telling you "Let's see what this Jerry guy says to you" is HIGHLY suspect IMHO. Did you have a huge and long length discussion before you came here? I'm thinking there's something else in play, again it's spidey senses coming into play.

    I'm sorry for being involved in my childrens lives and not giving you a full onset answer ASAP. I was sent this link from a friend who thought I should look into it. So tried to do some cleanup as I could between matches and rest periods. So it's pretty rude on your part (and do believe I did put up in the previous response somewhere I'm doing this while at a Rugby match) to keep wanting an imediate answer.
     
  9. Jerry Daschofsky

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    Ok, since now I can freely type and read (not on a phone). When someone new signs up during boat selling season and touts new boats, it becomes suspect. Yes, people can speak openly, but not "freely". Why? Because this site isn't owned by the people, it's owned by one man. Just that when it comes down to it, there always seems to be some sort of angle coming from the person starting the thread, whether it be to defend a friend who was booted for spamming, or a spammer under an AKA trying to stir the pot.
     
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    ignoranceisbliss? Banned or Parked

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    I never told anyone to do anything, and I expressed my opinion on what I believe is informational. And Indy and I are 2 different people, by the way.

    -"Seems you're just trying to reinforce your own perception of this site."
    actually, I am trying to change my perception of a website that I only heard of today, and the things which I have heard have given me a negative perception. But the fact that we are still having this conversation does not reinforce that now does it?
     
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    ignoranceisbliss? Banned or Parked

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    good example, thanks
     
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    You came here with a negative opinion and preconceived notion. I came here to learn, grow, and share.
     
  13. Jerry Daschofsky

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    What's funny is you're "perception" is coming off one man's perspective who's been banned and starting out your first post the way you did without browsing all the different venues we have available here. Have you been to all the forums here? There's a wealth of info and knowledge on this board, once you weed through it. Alot of prostaffers, designers, etc from the industry on here (some well known names in fact under psuedonyms).
     
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    I assure you that I am not friends with, nor have I ever privately corresponded with the booted member before today. I did pm with him after posting this, as we are both members of another forum, from which he became aware of this post and decided to contact me to briefly give his side of the story. I have had 2 pm's from him, each of which are only a few sentences long. I never demanded an immediate answer to my questions, but just an answer in general. Thats not too much to ask of someone who responds to my posts but not my question. I, alas, do not have your "spidey sense", and therefore was not aware that you were busy with your children and responding from a phone. Upon learning that, I did not demand that you answer my question, but asked another admin who had included themselves in the conversation, the same question. Additionally, you asked me to pm you some information, so you could answer a specific question of mine. I sent you that info and have said nothing more on the particular subject, and am PATIENTLY awaiting your response.
     
  15. Jerry Daschofsky

    Jerry Daschofsky Moderator Staff Member

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    I posted this up at 12:49 pm this thread. Check above, can't lie on that.
     
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