Who invented skagit casting

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  1. Coonhound Jed

    Coonhound Jed New Member

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    bob stroebel and harry lemire, along with jimmy green.
     
  2. floatinghat

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    What type of Skagit casting? The most anal of the Skagit casters is Ed Ward, technique wise he is among the most precise and consistent casters I have ever met. Skagit casting isn't casting a Skagit line with "Skagit type casts" Most people I see Skagit casting are mixing it with touch and go where they load the rod from the inertia in the line and it's movement.

    Skagit casting draws it's power " loads the rod" through water resistance. IE' draging they line off/thru the tension of the water.

    To add to the list for the Oregon guys- Mark Bachmann, Tyler Thomas, Brian Silvey.
     
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    It is with a bit of trepidation that I say this. Like what do I know? I'm a relative newcomer to this stuff. But, IMHO, I suspect there were a hand full of guys from that area who were in on this Skagit thing from the beginning. And keep in mind it didn't happen overnight. It took a while to iron out all the kinks. But if you were to re-phrase the question as who most refined, most defined, most anything else related to Skagit casting, a lot of those names would fall by the way side until only a few were left. Ones that kept coming up over & over & over again. And it sure as hell wouldn't be Al Gore.
     
  4. Leroy Laviolet

    Leroy Laviolet Aint no nookie like chinookie

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    Oh, I don't know... That algore invented the internet, global warming , why not he as the "Mother of all skagit casters" !!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  5. Todd Burt

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    I've heard Farrar came with the concepts, Hogan perfected them, and Cook sold them. Somthing like that...
     
  6. Steve Saville

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    That's the way the Snap-T cast was invented but not sure about Skagit casting. I suspect that they all had a hand in the development of the technique.
     
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    Jimmy Green introduced two handed rods (16') to the Skagit. The first guys who got blanks from Jimmy were Harry Lemire and Bob Strobel. They refined the rods into what became the Sage 9140-4 about 1986, plus or minus a year. That led to other folks mentioned, Mike K., Dec H., John F., Ed W., Scott O. and others climbing on the bandwagon. I think Mike gets credit for doing more line experimentation than most. Jimmy initially was casting heavy shooting heads overhead. Harry and Bob developed what they called a "pop" cast with a shooting head in a floating belly, sinking tip configuration. But if Harry and Bob, oh, and Jimmy's friend Al Buhr, refined the Spey rod, Mike and the others refined the casting technique. Somebody ought to write all this shit down before we forget it.

    Oh, and I didn't jump on the two hand rod bandwagon for a long time for some strange reason. I guess I thought it was more of a novelty than anything, and I was plenty busy catching steelhead on my old single hand rod.

    Sg
     
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    Mosshole,

    Thanks. Hardly know what we'd do without your contribution to the topic.

    Sg
     
  10. Rayne Rivers

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    Salmo,
    You're message box is full...
     
  11. Leroy Laviolet

    Leroy Laviolet Aint no nookie like chinookie

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    This has been a good history lesson , not what I thought !
     
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    Salmo has the short version down pretty good. There are a ton of other people involved that most have not heard of. Many hours spent at the old fly shop in Mt. Vernon, on the river, at the tavern over a beer or over morning coffee discussing different ways to do things, different line configurations, construction techniques, rods, reels, you name it. The well knowns and the not so well knowns all contributing what they learned that day, that season, that run. The Skagit style was invented, developed, refined, and made what it is today by the amalgamation of many people's experiences and experimentations.
     
  13. NomDeTrout

    NomDeTrout Fly Guy Eat Pie

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    Hey I'm just stating random things that I hear from people here and there.
    I'msure theres alot of info skewed but in the movie Drift, Hazel says him and few buddies brought up spey rods. Doesn't say much about skagit casting, but hey I was just throwing names in.
     
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  15. Leroy Laviolet

    Leroy Laviolet Aint no nookie like chinookie

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    Classic !!!!!!!!! Love it !!!!!!!!