who uses over 600 grs on a 8wt??

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  1. sandspanker

    sandspanker Member

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    I have a 8 wt 13-0 spey rod have been working too hard as of lately to cast so I was thinking of going up in wt. Have seen a few guys with 700 grs on a 8 wt. Was wondering who uses this wt line??
     
  2. Evan Burck

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    Just depends on the particular rod. Calling a spey an "8wt" doesn't really say much about it as far as its grain window. My guess is that there are just things on your cast that might need work. You can learn to cast just about any head on it. If you're using a 600gr, you're probably already toward the high end of the grain window.
     
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    550-650 is the window
     
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    If you're using a 600gr, I'd stick with it. I have a Decho 8wt, and run a 600gr on it. It's definitely as heavy as I'd go with that rod.
     
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    For perspective: I've been fishing a loop yellowline 12'4" 8wt and use a skagit switch 540 + tips from 12' T-11 (672gr.) to 12' of T-17 (744gr.) Other friends of mine who fish the same rod use 570 compact skagits + 15' T-14 (780gr.) while others use 630 compact skagits and 10' of T-14 (770gr.). All 8 weights are different but I hope that gives you an idea of the various combinations a given rod can handle.
     
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    Z Axis 8129 throws a nice payload in my inexperienced hands with a 660 grain Airflo Compact Skagit. Also throws a longer and lighter custom line that is probably about 570. Most things seem possible.
     
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    I have the same rod,, 660 is way heavy.
     
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    Without knowing what rod, 600 gr seems to be in the ballpark on most 8 weight spey rods. Your most likely having a break down in your casting sequence. For that if your skagit casting I would recommend the DVD Skagit Master #1. One quicker possible solution is you might be pulling your anchor. Try using a longer tippet, somewhere around 4+ feet. If you increase up to a 700gr line you will most likely really have to slow down your casting stroke. (again depending on what rod you are using)
     
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    I would say go for it if you want to jump up to 700 grain it can't hurt I watched skagit master 2 a few day ago scott throws a 750grain skagit with heavy sinktips with the 13'4'' z-axis 8wt
    for example on my 13' 7/8 tfo deer creek I can throw 570 grains compact skagit and 15feet of t17 make that whole set up 825 grains and the suggested window on the rod is 450-700grain but is all personal preference I like to load the rod on the heavy side and chuck a lot of junk
     
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    i use a 600g on a zaxis 9 wt and a 560 on my 8wt
     
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    I run a 600 compact skagit on my 8129 z-axis and couldn't imagine going heavier or lighter. Before the 600, I tried a 570 and just didn't like it nearly as much. Although this is a rod that some say just wants more and more. I just haven't felt the need to go heavier, but have to say I am intrigued. Regardless, a perfect example of casting stroke and personal preference being most important with regard to your set up.
     
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    8129 the most versatile spey rod I have ever seen,,,that said most of my 8 speys take a 600 or maybe I am too cheap to try others and jsut fish it...
     
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    shotgunner Anywhere ~ Anytime

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    You want to try something with a 'wide window' toss up a thread about skagit weight prefs.

    I cant imagine a 630 on a 8124 Loop Yellow.. a rod thats more of a 7wt anyday. If thats what works well for that guy though then more power to him! Why ask why.

    spanker, I'd stick with the 600. Try others as opportunity comes [loaners] keeps R&D investments minimal :)
     
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    For you. For someone else maybe it is pretty good. I'm a hack. Over time I've dropped the weight I'm tossing on that by about 100 grains. I still suck, but the work is in progress.
     
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    There's nothing good about hack casting an over loaded rod. Better to line it in the proper grain window and learn to load the rod correctly with good technique.