Had a question for all of you May want to check out a line called the Yancy line, I think Dennis Dickson sells it on his sons website called Streamside Flyshop.com I have used before and it is very effective for winter and summer steelheading. It is a multi tip line and allows you to spey cast a single handed rod! Oh by the way Rio versatip suck, those who fish it, must not realize that the tips don't turnover how they should. No offense just my two cents. Take the time and check this line out, you wont regret it, neither will your arm!!