Griffon I have a perfect spot in mind to run the dog and see as you say how he does without being urged to hunt or ?????? I hope this comes off in an hour or so and also hope this guy dives into the cover and roots around like he should. Also, Roper put me onto a Spinone up for adoption that would be perfect as he is supposedly steady on point, 5 y.o, etc ...... I think I got there a little too late though .... we'll see.